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Subject: How would you feel about...?
Date Posted: 4/4/2013 4:43 PM ET
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I'm interested to know what everyone's say is on offering deals on PBS.

Do you think it's rude for someone to message you suggesting an offer on your bookshelf even though you didn't clarify a deal?

If this happened or did happen to you, how would you handle this?

 

In my opinion, I feel like it's rude because the person would be trying to get free books even though the owner of those books never specified a willing deal, but at the same time, I wouldn't know how to handle that in a nice way & say no especially depending on the person if they have a lot of books or not. Personally though, I don't have many books & for someone to message me suggesting a deal, I feel as if they're out of place trying to get free books where as I have to spend money to ship these books & only receive 1 credit for 3 books or so.

 

Also have a question regarding ARCs -- Is it reasonable to ask for a credit to be given before or after the individual receives the book?



Last Edited on: 4/4/13 5:19 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/4/2013 5:05 PM ET
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Do you think it's rude for someone to message you suggesting an offer on your bookshelf even though you didn't clarify a deal?

Nope. As a matter of fact, it's specifically allowed by PBS, people can ask for deals politely, and just as politely, be told, "no".

If this happened or did happen to you, how would you handle this?

If you are not interested, just answer back with something polite "No Thanks, I prefer not to offer deals. But thanks for your interest in my shelf!"

This has happened to me, but I am OK with deals, so I ponder the merits of their offer and accept or counter-offer accordingly.  I accept deals, and I have also asked for them ... so I feel it's only fair to do the opposite thing and accept deals that are requested, as long as they are fair.

I prefer deals that are for more credits than just one, though ... so I am more likely to accept a deal request from someone who wants 6 books for 2 credits, rather than 3 books for 1 credit. Mailing out 3 books for 1 credit might cost me more money than normal ... whereas 6 books for 2 credits definitely costs less than normal to mail out.

I'm all about getting rid of books. Joining PBS to do so has not worked out well for me in that respect!!!!!!!!



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Date Posted: 4/4/2013 5:23 PM ET
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Personally I don't think it's rude to ask or be asked for a deal.  If you don't ask, the answer is always "No" and if you are asked you can always say "No".   Both politely of course!smiley

Date Posted: 4/4/2013 5:35 PM ET
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I don't really feel that its rude to ask someone because a lot of people don't mind doing deals especially if they have lots of books on their shelf that are heavily listed.  Its cheaper for the person sending if they ship more books so If I wanted to order 5 books from a person and I know about the weight of the books and can calculate how much the media mail might be If they were going to only spend $4 dollars or so to send these books I might ask if they would be willing to send one or two for free. 

You don't have to say yes or really even respond if you don't want to.  I've had people respond negatively before and really it doesn't bother me I've ordered the books I wanted anyway.  However if this happened to me and I didn't want to do a deal or couldn't afford to pay the shipping on them with out the reimbursement for the credits I would say "I'm sorry but at this time I can't do deals,"  or something along those lines like "I'm sorry I don't have a lot of books and I need to get all the credits out of them so I can order more."  I wouldn't be upset if I got either of those comments. 

Did you check that person's bookshelf and see if they maybe had something you might want.  I've also when asked looked at others bookshelf when I couldn't afford to do deals and in turn if I wanted something on theirs offered a cross deal.  Like if I send out 3 for 1 and they had 3 I wanted on their shelf they send them out for the 3 for 1 two.  If they were not willing to do the cross deal I'd declined to do the deal.  If someone's not willing to do something they are asking for then I would feel they were trying to get something for free.  If they didn't have anything I liked on their book shelf and I couldn't afford to do the deal I would probably decline.   

You also might have had this happen to you because your book shelf is primarily YA or Children books.  For some reason a lot of people on here don't like to spend a full credit on those books  especially if they are under 200 pages.  The small ones really are cheap to mail and if its only costing you very little to mail it can you under stand why someone might want an extra thrown in.  I totally understand what you mean though that you don't have a lot of books and need the credits from them to get more.  Also kids books can sometime be as expensive as adult books and people just don't understand that here. 

You can also go into the book bazaar or the discussion forum for the genre you read the most and look for deals that way your credits go farther and you might be more willing to deal if you have received deals on the books you have.  I've gotten tons of good deals from the bazaar and the genre book deals theads that I woudn't mind if someone pm'd me and asked if I would do a deal.  That is within reason I usually don't do 3 for 1's at all but a 2 for 1 or a 3 for 2 I would be willing to do.  It also to me depends on how heavily posted the book is I'd be more willing to let go of a book with over a thousand copies for free than I would be willing to do so on one with 20 or less copies posted. 

Also if you don't want to do deals at all on your bookshelf where you have the welcome book worms comment you might want to add that you can't do deal at this time that way you won't even get asked anymore. 

Date Posted: 4/4/2013 5:38 PM ET
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You never know if you don't ask.  and we're all adults here so we should all be assertive and be able to say "NO" if someone asks for a deal that we don't want to do.

And Sarah, you don't have to give a reason, but I think what you said in your post is fine, something like "I don't have many books posted so will take my chances on them being requested eventually."

Date Posted: 4/4/2013 5:48 PM ET
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I don't think it's rude to ask. There are many members who don't know they can offer deals. Sometimes when I'm looking for books I find parts of series languishing on someone's shelf. I make the suggestion and give them info about the book bazaar, forums and deals just in case they didn't know.  The worst they can do is refuse. I have notes on all of my reminder list books so if I look through someone's shelf I can scroll quickly to see if they have anything I want.

If someone asks me for a deal I'm much more receptive to doing it than I used to be. In the beginning I posted so many books that had traveled with me through the years and I wanted to get a full credit for each so I could order new books. But those original books are gone now and I keep a fair balance of credits to order anything that pops up. Also, with less attachment to the books I've posted, I am happy to trade them out as fast as I can. My membership here is more about sending books so I can get more books, making space, if you will. If it takes a deal then I'll consider it.

Date Posted: 4/4/2013 7:54 PM ET
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I have no problem with someone asking for a deal. I had a member who wanted 4 of my audiobooks.  She ordered 3 and I gave her one free. I like getting orders for multiples. It gets rid of books I've read and frees up space on my bookshelf.  If you don't want to make deal, just say no. It's not rude to ask for a deal and it's not rude to say "sorry, I don't want to make deals right now."

Date Posted: 4/5/2013 9:56 AM ET
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No problem asking for deals and I don't mind if they ask.  I even encourage it.

-RD

Date Posted: 4/5/2013 10:23 AM ET
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I'm always open to deals, though I do prefer offers that allow for multiple credits (4/2, 8/3, 12/4 etc.).

I ran a deal in the bazaar yesterday and ended up mailing out 24 books for 11 credits. Shipping costs ran around $17 for all of the packages. Mailing out 24 separate books would have cost over $60. I'm happy to have those books out of the house and I'm happy with the end result.

It's cool if you aren't open to deals, though. That's the great thing about PBS ... different strokes for different folks.

mistie -
Date Posted: 4/5/2013 2:13 PM ET
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Sarah, if someone asks and you don't want to deal, simply reply, briefly but firmly "thankyou for your offer, but I am not offering deals' , or words to that effect.

Something for you to consider though, is postage costs. To mail one paperback the media mail cost would be $2.53, if you chose to offer a 3 for 2 deal, your total postage cost would probably be $2.97 (or thereabouts). So, whilst you have indeed given them a "free" book, your postage cost per credit is now $1.48, compared to $2.53.

The above is why many members who have alot of books, or a ready source of cheap books are happy to do multiple credit deals. There is no poins, financially to do simgle credit deals such as 3 for 1. but then, if you approach requesting books completely as a financial decision, you are better off buying credits in the bazaar (currently at around $2.20), and just donating your books somewhere - not even mailing any at all.

But, to repeat, if you donlt want to deal- just say "no" :-)

 

Date Posted: 4/5/2013 2:54 PM ET
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What Sara (and others) said  yes  polite inquiries are not rude, so long as they are willing to accept a polite no if you are not interested.

Regarding ARC's.  There are a couple forum threads where ARC's may be posted for swap, and PBS rules allow the sender to request a credit (or other deal) to cover their postage costs.  But all that needs to be declared and agreed upon by both parties up front (before acceptance and mailing).  As for when the credit transfer is appropriate (before or after the book is received) is open for discussion, I've done deals both ways.   When offering a deal, I don't ask for the credit until the book is received (or maybe scans on the DC)...but it's more common that the credit transfer before the book is received.   The two members can work out the details as they wish.

Date Posted: 4/5/2013 4:22 PM ET
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Do you think it's rude for someone to message you suggesting an offer on your bookshelf even though you didn't clarify a deal?

If this happened or did happen to you, how would you handle this?

This is actually in the Book Bazaar tips:

(5) If a member asks you for a deal and you haven't offered one, this is not considered rude; it is also not considered rude to refuse. This kind of thing should be handled politely, without hard feelings on either side.

If you don't want to offer a deal, just say "Sorry, at this time I am not offering deals on my bookshelf. Thank you for your interest" And leave it at that. If the person badgers after that, THEN they are being rude. 

lso have a question regarding ARCs -- Is it reasonable to ask for a credit to be given before or after the individual receives the book?

An ARC cannot, under ANY circumstances be posted into the system. Not even if the person asks first and the requester agrees. If someone wants to swap an ARC for credit on PBS they need to offer it in the Book Bazaar. When they have someone who wants the book, they need to get the address through PMs and the credit through the Give Credits button. The books does not meet the posting rules and the person should not be clicking the buttons saying it does. The site if very firm on this policy.  As for when the credit transfers hands, I have always gotten credits before I have mailed the book when I swap unpostables.



Last Edited on: 4/5/13 4:23 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/5/2013 8:12 PM ET
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I don't think it's rude - any more than someone asking if you'll take less on an item you're selling in a yard sale.

If you don't want to do deals, then simply reply that you aren't offering any deals.

MaryF

Date Posted: 4/16/2013 11:45 PM ET
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I don't typically post deals on the bazaar but if someone asks for a deal from my shelf and its reasonable I will definitely accept...if its not a fair offer I will counter.