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This question came up in a book group at FB - one of the members there has an Etsy shop and wants to include a bookmark with her Etsy information listed on the bookmark. Is this against PBS rules? If not what's the general consensus about promo items being included in a book you receive. The person in question isn't me, in case anyone's wondering. I'm just curious as the young lady seems to be a very nice person and it would be a shame if she got into trouble for doing this. Any feedback would be welcome. |
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Technically, you can't include other items inside a media mail package. So that's one reason why she shouldn't do it. Also, PBS does frown on advertising your "business" on PBS, I imagine that would include a package insert into a book. Having said that, I get plenty of bookmarks in books that people mail to me and I don't care. I wouldn't report it. But some poeple may be personally bothered by it. All in all, probably not a good idea. |
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Thanks, Sara. I totally forgot about the Media Mail regs!
Gail |
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I agree, I often get bookmarks included, even PBS has -- or at least used to -- a bookmark you can print. Having said that, I have always understood that included advertising was not allowed...and yes, there are those pesky Media Mail regulations. |
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I think amazon does not allow it either. I find books once in a while that have book marks that are themed in connection with the book they are in. I also find old books in thrift stores and the book has a book mark in it from a bookstore from locations all over the US. I thought about collecting these book marks from around the US. but I don't really have the room for it. |
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Personally, I don't see a problem with including any bookmarks without advertising. Bookmarks are part of books. For example, if you include a bookmark with words like "Get caught reading a good book," with a photo of a person reading a book (an actual bookmark I have) where is the problem? I seriously doubt the Post Office will be sending either a postal inspector or the FBI to arrest you. As for advertising, if a bookmark has some advertising on it, say an address of a book store, but the majority of the bookmark has facts about Civil War generals, I also don't see any problem. Even Amazon often includes bookmarks with famous saying about books, and the bookmark has the wording "Amazon.com" on it. I know this to be true, as I have several I received this way. However, if the bookmark is mostly advertising or has advertising for a business you are connected with, then there certainly would be a potential problem. I once reported someone here to PBS for including advertising, and a really smelly sample, of scents they were selling for some company. The idea was for you to join and be listed under their management. I reported them more for the really bad smelling scents than the advertising pitch. I also discovered others had complained before me about that person. Of course, official Post Office rules might disagree with me. But I usually include laminated non-advertising bookmarks with the books I send. One example is a bookmark from a large bundle the Federal Reserve Bank sent me on famous Americans. These go out in large hardbacks as they are long bookmarks. Another bookmark I often include in smaller books has images of insects with a listing of the university Web site where you can go for free information. It was for a site I developed when I was employed by that university and was very popular. It recorded over 5 million page views a year for years, when I worked on it, and is still popular world-wide. Last Edited on: 8/2/16 11:00 AM ET - Total times edited: 1 |
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I don't think Amazon uses media mail for items sold. You can send bookmarks or other items with First Class Mail. |
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It falls under the Domestic Mail Manual - Chapter 270- Media Mail, 273-Prices & Eligibility --- 5.2 Incidental First Class Mail Attachments & Enclosures. !!The bookmark can NOT advertise any business, anything to purchase, any reference to a place to visit - anything! It's akin to writing "Happy Birthday, Love Mom" on a piece of paper and putting it in the book. (Of course no one in the post offices has read their manuals front to back, so every postal employee will have a different answer.) Last Edited on: 8/2/16 3:55 PM ET - Total times edited: 1 |
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Happy Birthday is actually OK. I will have to look up that reference. |
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I don't mind having a 'generic' bookmark enclosed, but I don't particularly like anything with advertizing on it. It's just something else that I have to dispose of - probably into the recycle bin, but still... |
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I sent out 7 books via media mail yesterday. I was asked if there was anything, including correspondence in the books. And then each package was stamped "media mail, subject to inspection" in red. |
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I wouldn't want to receive anything promoting a business with my book. I don't want religious literature either and used to have a problem with that. |
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What Diane said. IIRC a generic bookmark may be send as 'incidental' but advertising for a personal business is not in compliance with PBS guidelines (and possibly MM). |
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I have no desire to receive ANY advertising, solicitations, prayers, or other messages with my books here. I certainly wouldn't report anyone, but it's just one more thing I have to put in the trash, and since I have to haul my own trash and/or burn the paper trash myself, it is really not appreciated. If I were interested in purchasing on Etsy, going to your church, etc. i would seek out those sites directly.
And by the way, add a few hundred "cardboard" bookmarks to the cargo area of a plane......it mounts up. The REASON media mail is less expensive is a gift. Please don't think it's no big deal. Everything is weighed and there is only so much that can fit on a plane..... People who continue to cheat the system (ANY system) are those who always ruin a good thing for the rest of us. Last Edited on: 8/12/16 6:07 PM ET - Total times edited: 2 |
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