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Subject: More Jean Plaidy--GONE
Date Posted: 9/7/2010 10:55 PM ET
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I have 9780307346193 To Hold the Crown and 9780307346209 The King's Confidante both from the Tudor series.  Both are trade ppbks in great condition.  I would like to send them both to the same person to save on postage.  If you would like them both let me know and i will post directly to your WL.



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Date Posted: 9/8/2010 6:54 AM ET
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I've been collecting the Tudor series to read next year and neither of these titles are listed on Jean Plaidy's web page.  They look like the recent reprints that are being done with new titles.  Does anyone know what the original titles of these are?  I couldn't find it anywhere!

Date Posted: 9/8/2010 7:10 AM ET
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Ugh, why do they change titles?  I hate that!

Christa, on Amazon, "To Hold the Crown" is called the first of the Tudor series, so that would make it "Uneasy lies the head." 

"The King's Confidante" is billed as the 4th book in the series; one of the reviewers said she read it first as "St. Thomas Eve."    (But according to Fantastic Fiction, St. Thomas Eve is the 6th book.)  I guess you could compare plots at this point to make sure. 

I"m so glad I'm not the only person to collect books to read next year!  ;D

Date Posted: 9/8/2010 9:37 AM ET
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So in that same Amazon blurb, it says "The King's Confidante" is the 4th book of the 9 book Tudor series.  But the original Tudor series was 11 books.  I think what has happened is when they re-published, they combined the 3 original books on Catherine of Aragon, which were books 2, 3 and 4, into one new book, which is book 2.  So that the old book 6 is now the new book 4!  How confusing!

Either way, I'm going to take these books off of blubonnet's hands unless someone else has already done so.



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Date Posted: 9/8/2010 9:47 AM ET
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I think what has happened is when they re-published, they combined the 3 original books on Catherine of Aragon, which were books 2, 3 and 4, into one new book, which is book 2.  So that the old book 6 is now the new book 4!  How confusing!

That's even worse than just changing the titles!  Arrgghhh.

Date Posted: 9/8/2010 10:06 AM ET
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Christa, you are right on all the titles. I have these at home. I need to go through all of the old mmpb's I have because I am pretty sure I have some duplicate titles in there now.

Oh, I wish they'd leave titles alone! Why make it so confusing??? Unless they want us to slip up and buy the same book twice. It's an evil plot, I tell ya!

Date Posted: 9/8/2010 10:15 AM ET
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I was just trying to make a little spreadsheet to reference the old titles to the new titles and it is soooo confusing!  At least on Amazon, they've also given them different subtitles that make it even harder...."The Tudor Princesses"  "The Tudor Queens"  "Henry VIII Wives"....I thought I had all the versions of the Tudor series on my WL, but I'm finding that I don't have some of these re-titled ones.   ugh.

Date Posted: 9/8/2010 11:14 AM ET
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so THATS why i thought i'd read  these plaidy's before!  lol

they are yours Christa

Date Posted: 9/8/2010 4:30 PM ET
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There's a website that lists all of her books by category.  It may list old names/new names.  I'll look for it when I get home.



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Date Posted: 9/8/2010 5:42 PM ET
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I found this on wikipedia. 

  1. Uneasy Lies the Head (1982) (republished as To Hold the Crown in 2008)
  2. Katharine, the Virgin Widow (1961)
  3. The Shadow of the Pomegranate (1962)
  4. The King's Secret Matter (1962)
  5. Murder Most Royal (1949)
  6. Saint Thomas' Eve (1954) (republished as The King's Confidante in 2009)
  7. The Sixth Wife (1953)
  8. The Thistle and the Rose (1963)
  9. Mary, Queen of France (1964)
  10. The Spanish Bridegroom (1954) (republished as For a Queen's Love in 2010)
  11. Gay Lord Robert (1955) (first by Eleanor Burford, republished as Lord Robert in 2007 and A Favorite of the Queen in 2010)
  • Katharine of Aragon (omnibus of 2-4)
Date Posted: 9/8/2010 8:31 PM ET
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I like the word omnibus. Omnibus.

Date Posted: 9/8/2010 9:31 PM ET
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OK, here's what I found

Norman Series
The Bastard King Vol. 1
The Lion of Justice Vol. 2
The Passionate Enemies Vol. 3

Plantagenet Series
The Plantagenet Prelude Vol. 1
The Revolt of the Eaglets Vol. 2
The Heart of the Lion Vol. 3
The Prince of Darkness Vol. 4
The Battle of the Queens Vol. 5
The Queen from Provence Vol. 6
Edward Longshanks (The Hammer of the Scots) Vol. 7
The Follies of the King Vol. 8
The Vow on the Heron Vol. 9
The Passage to Pontefract Vol. 10
The Star of Lancaster Vol. 11
Epitaph for Three Women Vol. 12
The Red Rose of Anjou Vol. 13
The Sun in Splendour Vol. 14

Tudor Series
Uneasy Lies the Head Vol. 1 (reprinted as To Hold the Crown)
Katharine the Virgin Widow Vol. 2 (included in Katherine of Aragon)
The Shadow of the Pomegranate Vol. 3 (included in Katherine of Aragon)
The King?s Secret Matter Vol. 4 (included in Katherine of Aragon)
Murder Most Royal Vol. 5
St. Thomas?s Eve Vol. 6 (also printed as The King?s Confidante)
The Sixth Wife Vol. 7
The Thistle and the Rose Vol. 8
Mary, Queen of France Vol. 9
The Spanish Bridegroom Vol. 10 (also printed as For a Queen?s Love)
Gay Lord Robert Vol. 11 (also printed as A Favorite of the Queen)
Katherine of Aragon Vol. 2,3,4

Mary Stuart Series
The Royal Road to Fotheringhay Vol. 1
The Captive Queen of Scots Vol. 2

James I
The Murder in the Tower

Charles II Trilogy
The Wandering Prince Vol. 1 (included in The Loves of Charles II)
Health Unto His Majesty Vol. 2 (included in The Loves of Charles II)
Here Lies our Sovereign Lord Vol. 3 (included in The Loves of Charles II)
The Loves of Charles II Vol. 1,2,3

Stuart Saga
The Three Crowns Vol. 1 (included in Last of the Stuarts)
The Haunted Sisters Vol. 2 (included in Last of the Stuarts)
The Queen?s Favorites Vol. 3 (included in Last of the Stuarts)
Last of the Stuarts Vol. 1,2,3

Georgian Series
The Princess of Celle Vol. 1
Queen in Waiting Vol. 2
Caroline, the Queen Vol. 3
The Prince and the Quakeress Vol. 4
The Third George Vol. 5
Perdita´s Prince Vol. 6
Sweet Lass of Richmond Hill Vol. 7
Indiscretions of the Queen Vol. 8
The Regent?s Daughter Vol. 9
The Goddess of the Green Room Vol. 10
Victoria in the Wings Vol. 11

Queen Victoria Series
The Captive of Kensington Palace Vol. 1
The Queen and Lord M Vol. 2
The Queen?s Husband Vol. 3
The Widow of Windsor Vol. 4

Queens of England Series
Myself My Enemy Vol. 1 (also printed as Loyal in Love)
Queen of this Realm Vol. 2
Victoria Victorious Vol. 3
The Lady in the Tower Vol. 4
The Courts of Love Vol. 5
In the Shadow of the Crown Vol. 6
The Queen?s Secret Vol. 7
The Reluctant Queen Vol. 8
The Pleasures of Love Vol. 9 (also printed as The Merry Monarch?s Wife)
William?s Wife Vol. 10 (also printed as The Queen?s Devotion)
The Rose Without a Thorn Vol. 11

Ferdinand and Isabella Series
Castile for Isabella Vol. 1
Spain for the Sovereigns Vol. 2
Daughters of Spain Vol. 3
Isabella and Ferdinand Vol. 1,2,3

Lucrezia Borgia Series
Madonna of the Seven Hills Vol. 1
Light on Lucrezia Vol. 2
Lucrezia Borgia Vol. 1,2

de?Medici Series
Madame Serpent Vol. 1
The Italian Woman Vol. 2
Queen Jezebel Vol. 3
Catherine de?Medici Vol. 1,2,3

Henry of Navarre
Evergreen Gallant

French Revolution Series
Louis, the Well-Beloved Vol. 1
The Road to Compiegne Vol. 2
Flaunting Extravagant Queen Vol. 3

Spanish Inquisition Series
The Rise of the Spanish Inquisition Vol. 1
The Growth of Spanish Inquisition Vol. 2
The End of the Spanish Inquisition Vol. 3
The Spanish Inquisition Vol. 1,2,3

Other Titles
Together They Ride
Beyond the Blue Mountains
The Goldsmith?s Wife (also printed as King?s Mistress)
Daughter of Satan
Lilith
It Began in Vauxhall Gardens (also printed as Melisande)
Milady Charlotte
The Scarlet Cloak
Defenders of the Faith
Madame Du Barry
The Queen of Diamonds
The King?s Adventurer (also printed as This Was a Man)
A Triptych of Poisoners
Mary Queen of Scots: Fair Devil of Scotland
King?s Pleasure (also printed as Murder Most Royal)
The Unholy Woman (also printed as The Italian Woman)
Mary Queen of Scotland: The Triumphant Year (also printed as Royal Road to Fotheringhay)
The King?s Mistress (also printed as The Goldsmith?s Wife)
Melisande (also printed as It Began in Vauxhall Gardens)

Children?s Titles
Young Mary Queen of Scots
Young Elizabeth
Meg Roper; Daughter of Sir Thomas More

Date Posted: 9/8/2010 9:34 PM ET
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This website has lots of info.  http://sachem.suffolk.lib.ny.us/advisor/plaidy.htm

Date Posted: 9/9/2010 7:51 AM ET
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LOL @ Mimi...in the midst of this serious How-To-Untangle-Plaidy mess.."I like the word omnibus. Omnibus."  laugh

Date Posted: 9/9/2010 6:44 PM ET
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:) 

Alice J. (ASJ) - ,
Date Posted: 9/9/2010 7:57 PM ET
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I think reprinting it under a different name is a ploy so we buy the book twice. I have done that several times....

Christa let me know which ones you are missing are have slew of them. I pick them up when I see them in used books stores.

Alice