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Subject: Isnt It Nice
Date Posted: 12/2/2010 7:48 PM ET
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When a person has a bunch of RC and you turn it down and then you get a pm with a snotty little message.

Date Posted: 12/2/2010 8:00 PM ET
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Can you send the message to the powers that be?  No one should be nasty on here.  No reason to be.

Date Posted: 12/2/2010 8:05 PM ET
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Im not going to worry them about it. But you know just wait in line for the next book if you have a lot of RC and want new excellent books then dont whine when you get refused. My books are in good shape I wouldnt send any junk but it just gave me a bad feeling about sending it.

Date Posted: 12/2/2010 8:08 PM ET
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Are you declining the RC or saying you cannot mail? If you are declining the RC the individual shouldn't be able to contact you.

Date Posted: 12/2/2010 8:17 PM ET
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I just refused it but I did get a pm dont know how.

Date Posted: 12/2/2010 8:29 PM ET
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I'm not sure how the requestor contacted you as usually the transaction disappears if you decline an RC as it moves on to the next person and isn't even in the transaction archive. Regardless, he or she shouldn't have been rude as there is no reason for that.

Date Posted: 12/2/2010 8:43 PM ET
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I think some people will look to see who the offer is from before its accepted or rejected. There is a PM button on a Wish List Hold transaction.

As long as you were polite and not snotty in your denial of the transaction, there is no reason for them to get snotty with you and I would tell them that. They make the choice to risk getting turned down by using an RC. If any of your feelings about it you show here were made clear in the denial wording, then they may have taken offense.

Date Posted: 12/2/2010 8:45 PM ET
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All I said in the box was they had to many RC.

Date Posted: 12/2/2010 8:57 PM ET
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"I just refused it but I did get a pm dont know how."

 

It's possible you had the only copy of that book in the system, in which case the system isn't nearly as anonymous as a lot of people think. All the other member has to do is request the book again, and click on the link to see your shelf or profile.

Date Posted: 12/2/2010 9:17 PM ET
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Ya that could be possible.

Date Posted: 12/2/2010 10:17 PM ET
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Picky and snotty.  Don't you just love swappers like that...  not!

Date Posted: 12/3/2010 12:10 AM ET
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Yes, If the person was able to click on the "PM" button before you declined the RC, then they know who you are. If yours is the only book in the system, it's easy enough to contact you.

I wouldn't even respond, just send it along to the team and they'll give him/her a swat on the butt.

Date Posted: 12/3/2010 12:43 PM ET
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I have to be honest, I do not think that telling people that they have "too many RCs" is exactly a polite response either.

Even when I have to decline requests for RCs, I just put in the box "Sorry, book doesn't meet conditions" or "Sorry, I have a cat" or "Sorry, book is postable but not like-new" or whatever the answer is.

There is no reason to respond with criticism of their RC conditions. If I got a rejection of my own RCs that just said "too many RCs" I would think it was a little rude. Not that I would answer it, either, I would personally just ignore it. But that doesn't make it polite.

Date Posted: 12/3/2010 1:01 PM ET
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"You have too many RCs, so I am declining your request."

Ummmmmm......how is that rude?  Its a simple statement of a reason.

-RD

Date Posted: 12/3/2010 1:19 PM ET
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"Too many RCs" is a judgement statement, so might be considered rude by some.  To the OP, next time I would just say "cannot meet conditions" and leave it at that.

Date Posted: 12/3/2010 1:19 PM ET
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I guess everyone has their own thoughts. I dont see how saying you have to many RC to meet is rude. Its just saying the facts which were true.

Date Posted: 12/3/2010 1:46 PM ET
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"Too many RCs" is an opinion, not a fact.  I can see how someone might find that a little judgmental (as it is, actually, a judgment).  Clearly, the person who wrote the RC thought they were the ideal number of RCs.  You disagreed.

Date Posted: 12/3/2010 2:22 PM ET
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RC length is a factor in whether or not I decline or accept.  Just my opinion, but not sure I'd list it as the official reason to decline.

Date Posted: 12/3/2010 3:04 PM ET
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My thought is to say too many RC's for me, is a fact.  I think people should know thare are perople turning them down because of what they consider too many RC's.  They might choose to shorten them. It seems it's hard to  pelase people. Some complain because someone gives no explaination, and others complatin because they see people being judgemental of their RC's.

Date Posted: 12/3/2010 4:00 PM ET
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I don't think that the amount of people out there declining RCs is as large as anybody thinks. Just like most of the people using PBS never post in the forums, I think most of them don't have problems with RCs, either.

I have RCs on all my requests and I hardly ever get a refusal. When I do, it does not bother me. I've received one or two that were weird, but for the most part, the reasons why people decline are mundane. "No dustjacket". or "I can't find the book" or whatever. Everybody has been polite, even the weird messages. I've even gotton the "I don't send to people with special conditions" (once). That's fine with me, too. That's a polite message.

IMO, "too many RCs" is a shorthand way of saying "You have too many RCs and I can't be bothered reading them (or can't be bothered dealing with them)". That may be your true reason, but that still doesn't make it a polite thing to say to someone else. Just write "sorry" in the box and let that be your whole reason for not mailing.

Anyway, if you want to be helpful with someone's RCs, I think a longer message on the topic is more helpful that just writting "too many RCs". How about this: "Hi, you might want to consider reducing the amount of Requestor Conditions on your book requests, some members at PBS feel that multiple conditions are too hard to follow and they will just reject your request without reading it. Me included. Have a nice day!"

Date Posted: 12/3/2010 5:51 PM ET
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I think a lot of people don't take the time to really read (and think about) their own RC's! THEY know what they mean, but it can be pretty cloudy to the person receiving the RC.

I turned down one because it was so vague I could not really understand what it was they wanted -- or didn't want -- and just did not want to start PMing back and forth about book condition, so I just turned it down. And for my rejection I too, like Kay, received a snarky PM back telling me that if I could not meet their RC then they didn't want to receive any books from me because obviously none of my books met the posting guidelines...really?! That's what their RC was about -- reiterating the posting guidelines?!? I didn't appreciate the response but I was also glad that I did turn it down. When it starts out that way, it can only get worse...

Date Posted: 12/4/2010 1:50 PM ET
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True, I have refused a request that had any RC that was a bit lengthy but not because of the length; it's always been because my book didn't meet their RC. If they have an RC with a lot conditions, there is likely to be something that won't fit with my copy so I turn it down because of that condition.

Am I bit judgemental if I see a long RC with lots of specifications? Yes, I can't deny that. But that is the choice of the requestor; they know perfectly well they could be denied.

I have to agree that I would think refusing the RC simply because it is too long, and then telling the requestor so (and not offering any advice on how they could shorten their RC to a bearable length), sounds a bit rude. Simply state that your book does not fit their conditions (because, if their list is as long as you make it sound, there's bound to be something on there that would get your book marked RWAP) and move on.

mistie -
Date Posted: 12/5/2010 12:40 AM ET
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If I declined a RC, then received a "snotty" PM reply, it would just make me glad that I had declined.

Date Posted: 12/5/2010 1:53 PM ET
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I have in some instances declined RC's saying that they were too long and complicated. Basic RC's, like books from homes with no smoking and no pets, no ex-library books, please wrap books in plastic, are short and simple and I have no problem with those. I certainly don't mean be rude when I put too long and complicated; like it says on my Profile, I work on a public computer and I can't spend a lot of time on one request. The books are at my home, not the library, so I couldn't go count spine creases or whatever even if I felt like it. I don't feel like it's my job to help people phrase their RC. I also don't like putting that my book doesn't meet conditions; maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Sometimes it's hard to tell what is meant by the RC. Requestors need to understand that very often there are other takers for a particular book who don't have RC.



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Date Posted: 12/7/2010 6:38 PM ET
Member Since: 2/21/2009
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I just had one where the RC was something about not having any creases on the spine or cover...sent back something like "It's been read, would hate for you to get it and find out it was used" or something and got nastygram back...dunno how that makes the user think I'll accept next time :)

99% of the books I post are actually brand new unread copies, my mom ran a review website before she passed and we still get tons of stuff that I don't read and the site managers get the books directly from the publishers so they don't need the ones from me...I refuse to reward someone who is looking for new books from a used book site and would rather surprise the heck out of someone who will appreciate it.

I have little problem being a little snippy with people who have RCs that show that they want collectible or resalable copies, that's not what we are here for.

 

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