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Subject: Would you offer a deal after this?
Date Posted: 3/23/2010 12:20 PM ET
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I saw a request for a deal 3/1 on larger type books.  I have alot of unposted books so when I see these requests I like to look at persons shelf to see if I have anything that might be comparable to their likes.   Well in this instance and I'll change the wording a little the shelf header said.  I don't ever do deals as my books are not used and to good to require deals.  This immediately turned me off.  I thought it seems unfair to ask for something and be totally unwilling to offer similar in return.   If this is to controversial let me know and I erase it.  But it just make me question myself and wondered what others would think.

what do you think?

This is not meant to be any kind of personal attack.  Please be careful and don't get specific about anyone.

Only a thought provoking exercise.



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Date Posted: 3/23/2010 12:22 PM ET
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That would definately turn me off to offering them a deal on my books as well.  I might even be tempted to say something like "well I have x books that you might be interested in, but like you I don't do deals as my books are too good for that". 

(actually I wouldn't say that at all but I'd think it )

Date Posted: 3/23/2010 12:28 PM ET
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are you saying that the requestor is asking you for a deal but not willing to deal herself? Because if that 's the case then PFFT!!

Date Posted: 3/23/2010 12:30 PM ET
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I'd be annoyed too. Best to just ignore it and move on. There are too many good people here to swap/deal with.

Date Posted: 3/23/2010 2:54 PM ET
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What Kathy said PFFT! - what a twit.

Date Posted: 3/23/2010 5:21 PM ET
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I have to admit I am more than happy to offer deals .... but I would be very put off by a member with a bookshelf header like that!

You can take comfort in the fact that that member is not smart enough to know that the more (multi-credit) deals you offer on your books, the cheaper PBS is to use. Let them send out their books single expensive mailing by single expensive mailing.

Date Posted: 3/23/2010 6:25 PM ET
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Well, I think I found the member you are talking about. She did qualify it with usually and it doesn't hurt to ask.

I wouldn't offer her a 3/1 deal. It dosen't really do anything for the sender except free up more shelf space, so it'll be like doing her a favor she isn't likely going to reciprocate. But I'd offer a multi-credit deal, because she would be helping me save money while she earns / buys credits the expensive way.

Date Posted: 3/23/2010 6:36 PM ET
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That's really weird. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, I say. I wouldn't offer her anything!

I have a header similar to that on my shelf--just that I don't do deals, not that my books are "too good" or anything--but I also would never ask for a deal! I like the one book = one credit concept and if I felt otherwise, I'd have stayed a Boxer. I figure any book I really want is worth a credit to me. Just because a book is free doesn't mean I'll read it. When I was a boxer, I found most of the books I swapped that way I ended up re-listing unread...and I ended up sending a lot of books that I could have gotten credits for to get the books I *really* wanted.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 3/23/2010 8:04 PM ET
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A header like that on a shelf of someone wanting a deal would turn me off as well. I offer deals frequently - primarily because it keeps the shipping cost lower and because I love book shopping - bookstores, thrifts, and here. The more books I send, the more I allow I myself to buy.  

Date Posted: 3/23/2010 8:34 PM ET
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I also think I found the member you're referring to. I would send her a deal if I was offering one/had what she wanted. It doesn't put me off. Like Sophie said, she said she usually doesn't do deals and that it wouldn't hurt to ask.

I don't think that a member's willingness to do deals has any validity with whether or not I do a deal with them on my books. If you were interested in making a 3 for 1 deal, why would you suddenly not want to just because they might not do one in the near future or at all? You still wanted to send more books for the one credit, so the deal is still relevant to you. However, if it's something that makes you uncomfortable then you shouldn't do it.

 

Date Posted: 3/23/2010 9:06 PM ET
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I would probably be annoyed, but at the same time, the requestor has the right to send out the quantity of books that she chooses.  I don't mind doing an occasional deal, but I know many people that won't even conisder them.  (They may even "shop" the Bazaar for all I know.)

I've learned to let a lot of stuff (that I find annoying)  just roll like water off a duck's back ;)  It's not worth getting my panties in a bunch over. (as my husband would say.. )

I totally understand what you are saying, Jannie.  If you are uncomfortable with offering a deal after reading that, don't do it.  :) 

I'm sure good book karma will come your way no matter what you decide to do. 

Date Posted: 3/23/2010 9:23 PM ET
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I find it really selfish to ask for a deal better that you are willing to give. Asking for 3/1s on anything but skinny romances annoys me anyways. I believe that when a person asks for a deal they should at least make it beneficial for both  the sender and the receiver, a 3/1 just costs the sender more money to mail without any more compensation.

Date Posted: 3/24/2010 12:00 AM ET
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Because if that 's the case then PFFT!!

LOL...I agree!  ;-)

To specifically answer the question, no, I wouldn't personally offer a deal in this situation.  I'm not a huge fan of asking for deals, anyway, but I do think you should be willing to offer as good as you are requesting.`

Date Posted: 3/24/2010 12:28 AM ET
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Date Posted: 3/24/2010 3:26 AM ET
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OK, now you've got me paranoid. I have the following on my bookshelf header:

All books are from a non-smoking and pet free home, and none of the books are ex-library. Some books are PBS books that have been passed around a few times, but the ones that are not have usually only been read by me and were purchased brand new. If you want to know the condition of a specific book, please feel free to PM me.

And then this on my profile:

Most of the books I post on my shelf are better than PBS condition. I do not like ex-library books, so if you request a book from me, it will not be an ex-library book.

I'm probably being over-sensitive on the issue, but I truly hope neither sounds as if I am being snobbish about the condition of the books I post. In my ordering experience over the past year of being a member, I have gotten a lot of books that have been well-worn (even water damaged, stained, etc.) and some that have had pages come loose just by my opening the book. So I like advertising that I have books that are above the standard of PBS to alleviate any stress that a transaction with me might result in an RWAP. But is that offensive?

As for the first poster, if you do not feel comfortable/willing to offer her a deal, then you are well within your rights to refrain from doing so. There isn't any rule written anywhere that members cannot ask for deals even though they do not offer them. Yes, it does look bad she states she does not usually offer deals on books and then asks for deals on heavier books.

I'm not one to advertise deals from my shelves for a couple of reasons: 1) I have a small shelf, 2) when I went deal-offer happy as a newmem I regretted doing it later when I realized each of those books could have resulted in a credit of their very own. Many of those books I sent in deals were pricey trade paperbacks that I had bought at regular bookstore prices, and the deals were definitely in the requestors' favor.

Now if someone were to ask for a deal, I'd consider it, but it would depend on a few things. How many copies of the book are in the system? If it's just 1 copy, then I know it'll get requested sooner or later and I can be patient. When did I post it? I never really thought of this, until someone who offered me a deal didn't want to send a particular book in that deal because she'd just posted it the day before. Makes sense, but again, depending on the book's popularity, how many copies are in the system, etc., I might consider it.

Like Cheryl, I tend not to ask for deals. I don't advertise them, I feel a bit greedy asking for them. (Though I did post looking for a deal on a specific book tonight, until I saw the book in question only had one copy in the system. I seriously thought there would be dozens and dozens available. Wow! Who would've thunk?)

Sarah said: Let them send out their books single expensive mailing by single expensive mailing.

She probably does spend a bit more sending out singles than others do by offering deals from their shelves. But maybe in her mind asking for deals evens out the cost a little?



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Date Posted: 3/24/2010 8:01 AM ET
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Jennifer,

Just want to tell you I would not be turned away by your shelf header.

Date Posted: 3/24/2010 8:42 AM ET
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Date Posted: 3/24/2010 11:19 AM ET
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I was just sitting here trying to figure out what PFFT stood for:P  You mean like a general pfffft? :P  I always offer deals & never ask for them myself.  That's because I always have plenty of credits from my deals though.  I would say that I wouldn't feel inclined to give someone a 3 for 1 deal on books they'll turn around and swap 1 for 1, but I never look at bookshelves & headers when I get orders, so it's probably moot.

Oh - and Jennifer, your header is fine.



Last Edited on: 3/24/10 11:21 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/24/2010 12:23 PM ET
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 You mean like a general pfffft? :P 

Well, how I took it! ;-) 

Date Posted: 3/24/2010 2:14 PM ET
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Ill just say that Im more inclined to offer deals to those that are also open to reciprocate. BUT  I offer deals and dont screen who takes me up on them. I have asked for deals and am quite frequently turned down. LOL  Its OK, if I want it bad enough Ill get it. I just wish there was a way to request from the next person in line. LOL

 

I had someone who saw my offer thread ask me for a deal. A two for one deal with one extra thrown in. So essentially 5 books for two credits.  Even offered me the a two for one from her shelf.  I found some books of interest but already had them.   Secondly she was requesting my audio books.  LOL, I had to explain to her that the audios were worth two credits each and that my offer was buy two get a third free and that if she was interested I would add the other book she was interested in for free. So basicaly 7 credits worth of material for for 4 credits. She declined. LOL   Sometimes you just cant win.

 

I concur, Jennifer, your statements on both accounts are fine. Helpful even.



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