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Subject: PM Flat Rate Envelope ? for PO employees
Date Posted: 1/6/2011 6:30 PM ET
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OK currently if it fits it ships... with flat rate envelopes, you can usually stuff 2-4 small paperbacks in there without altering the envelope and still seal it as intended. You're allowed to reinforce with tape as long as you're not altering the envelope. This is a big money saver when sending books overseas, which I do when I trade on another site. 

The rumor is that they are moving away from "if it fits it ships" and not allowing bulky flat rate envelopes anymore. I didn't see any changes on the USPS website. Supposedly it's going to go into effect in a few weeks. 

Any PO employees heard anything about this?

Date Posted: 1/6/2011 8:00 PM ET
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I received an email at work, the Retail Digest, that included an attachment showing a flat Flat Rate envelope, and a bulky Flat Rate envelope, that stated that the bulky envelope could not be mailed at the flat rate.  Here is a link to an eBay discussion where someone has posted the illustration:  http://forums.ebay.com/db2/topic/Seller-Central/Flat-Rate-Envelope/510294022#1293742316948

 

But who knows, they may rescind it next week.  We shall see.

Date Posted: 1/6/2011 9:10 PM ET
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Ooh you're the best! Lots of links to good information via various threads on the eBay message board :) 

Date Posted: 1/11/2011 4:06 PM ET
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interesting since I have mailed some bulkier flat rate envelopes in the last month and none have come back.

ETA - misread, going to change, not in effect yet



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Date Posted: 1/11/2011 6:54 PM ET
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I have read many reports of this unofficial rule already being enforced. There is speculation that they are just trying to push everyone mailing bulky things to use the new flat-rate padded envelopes.

Date Posted: 1/12/2011 9:51 AM ET
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Since the padded flat-rate envelopes cost the sender the same, but USPS undoubtedly more, I'm not sure why they would push people to use them.

Date Posted: 1/13/2011 2:52 PM ET
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The Domestic Mail Manual is CORRECT.  If it Fits, It Ships. 
A NATIONAL Directive is going out to ALL Post Offices TODAY  (1/7/2011) across the US stating the DMM is correct and official.
 

"You can put a shoe or football into a Flat Rate Priority Envelop and mail it as long as the flap reaches the other side so the adhesive closes it. THEN add tape to the sides/seams and seal to reinforce it."

ANY oddball or odd-sized material up to 70 pounds can be shipped in a flat rate priority envelop or box.


Anyone experiencing difficulty or resistance going forward can contact Margaret Peppi at 518-464-7475 or give her name and number to your Postmaster for certified clarification.

Date Posted: 1/13/2011 7:46 PM ET
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I'll bet that's Margaret Pepe.

Date Posted: 1/13/2011 9:19 PM ET
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You're probably correct, out of Albany NY?    A friend did the footwork, made the contact, and got clarifcation.   Name could have easily been misspelled. 

Date Posted: 1/13/2011 10:06 PM ET
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My postmaster got the memo and confirms this. 

Date Posted: 1/15/2011 8:14 PM ET
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I find this whole saga entertaining. I am glad the USPS is finally doing something about  employees making up their own rules that contradict the DMM.