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Subject: People Posting Books that they Don't Have anymore!
Date Posted: 11/8/2010 7:15 PM ET
Member Since: 6/9/2010
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This has happened to me a few times,  where I requested a book and the person cancels with the reply that he/she no longer has the book or lost, or lent the book to someone else. I was just offered a wish list book and was informed th person did not have the book anymore. Is it right to post books, leaving it up,  when one of these cases is evident? I don't think so .. when you post a book it even asks you before you post it if you are able to post this book .. so why are people violatng this rule?

    And is there anyway we can mark them for this offence like we can with people who violate requestor terms?! Has anyone else encountered this problem?

Date Posted: 11/8/2010 7:26 PM ET
Member Since: 12/31/2009
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It happens. Some people post their books to several trading websites at the same time, then agree to mail it to someone else first. It is against the rules, and people do it anyway.

You can report them by using the "contact us" link at the bottom of the page, but I don't know if they usually do anything about it.

Date Posted: 11/8/2010 7:27 PM ET
Member Since: 8/6/2006
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I can understand not being able to find a book that has been posted to your shelf for a long time.  But if it's WLed then they must have just posted it.  Probably decided they wanted to keep it after all or a family member wanted to read it, etc.  It's not right but what can ya do?  At least you know you're at the top of the WL.

Date Posted: 11/8/2010 7:29 PM ET
Member Since: 5/3/2006
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I wouldn't report it, the information is already in the system. It is aggravating, but just one of those annoying things.

Date Posted: 11/8/2010 7:40 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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If it's habit with someone then PBS will give them a warning. But people make mistakes so I wouldn't bother PBS with a complaint.  It doesn't necessarily mean they'r a bad trader.

Date Posted: 11/8/2010 7:40 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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I would not send anything in through Contact Us about it. Its not like the Team can go make the person give you the book and the information you got when the request was cancelled is already in the system and too many cancelations and the Team may look into their account. Its a big let down to have Wish granted and then taken away, but a free site is going to have some of that.

Date Posted: 11/8/2010 7:43 PM ET
Member Since: 5/15/2005
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The site keeps track of cancellations and too many can jeopardize an account. I don't quite understand how it happens on wishlist books because I would think they were just posted recently. The sender probably just changed their mind about trading it and unfortunately, there's no remorse period  for the lister if the book is on wishlist.

I have to admit to misplacing a book or two. I'll search high and low and it's no where to be found until I cancel the order, then it magically appears.

Date Posted: 11/8/2010 7:44 PM ET
Member Since: 6/9/2010
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I hate when I give up anther book for the wish list book .. it really pisses me because then you could lose both books you wanted. Thank you for the comments and letting me spout off .. because that really is disheartening .. it was a book I really wanted too.

Date Posted: 11/8/2010 8:16 PM ET
Member Since: 8/18/2005
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It can happen. I posted a ton of WL'd books several weeks ago. Most went quickly but a couple went through about three or four wishers, timing out, before someone actually ordered the book.

After a week, I got the order and went to get the book, but couldn't find it. Anywhere. I was kind of afraid I'd mailed it to someone else by mistake since I mailed out 48 books in a week or so. But they all got where they were going, and no complaints.

I still haven't found the book. I've asked DD and DS, but they haven't seen it. DH doesn't read physical books, he's only into audio books. Did it fall behind a table? Did it get mixed up in the trash? Still have no clue. And I know I had it because I only enter books on my bookshelf from the ISBN from the book in front of me, where I inspect it before listing.

But I didn't know it was missing until I got the order. Another household item for those poor souls lost in the Bermuda Triangle. Hope they enjoy it! Lol



Last Edited on: 11/8/10 8:17 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 11/8/2010 8:28 PM ET
Member Since: 8/10/2009
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I searched last night and all day today for a book.  I know I bought it.  My DD was with me and remembers when we bought it.  Finally about ten minutes ago I sat down on the family room couch to talk to my DH and looked across the room and low and behold there is the missing book on the bottom shelf of the TV stand.  How it got there I don't know.  What sleep walking episode was I in.  I don't even keep books on TV Stand.  Only Games and Movies grace those shelves.

So yes sometimes we misplace a book.

Hope it doesn't happen to often.

Date Posted: 11/8/2010 8:43 PM ET
Member Since: 7/19/2008
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One of the problems posting WL books is that we cannot cancel the book after posting.  Someone has to accept it before we can cancel.  (I think there is a way using vacation hold?)  So books can roll over and over while you know you put that new book down on the wet kitchen counter. 

PBS tracks our percent of canceled orders.  We just have to let the system work.

Date Posted: 11/8/2010 9:32 PM ET
Member Since: 12/28/2006
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I'm also guilty, twice over the last couple years I couldn't find the book to mail.  I always have it in my hand before accepting a request, but spaced out and misplaced it before mailing.  Although I eventually found both books (one several months later hiding in my linen closet), but at some point we sometimes just have to cancel a transaction before the book turns up again.

Real life happens Brenda, but I'm surprised you've had several of these transactions so close together.

Emily also has a point, most of us have mistakenly posted a book then cannot cancel the entry until the other member accepts.  There's various reasons this happens, but to the member getting canceled it's just frustrating.



Last Edited on: 11/9/10 12:12 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 11/9/2010 12:21 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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I've had to do this before as well.  I've put my account on vacation to control budgets costs or because of frequent moves (4 in my 3yr membership).  Sometimes I take my shelf off hold long enough to post a WL book only have another book  that wasn't WL when I posted it be on WL hold.  A couple of times I've had to cancel because I just could not find the book-either it was packed up or it just vanished. 

Date Posted: 11/9/2010 4:47 PM ET
Member Since: 10/6/2005
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I had a wish list book roll through so many members it took almost a month to be requested! By the time it finally did, it had disappeared. I later found out that my mom had loaned it to one of her sisters. I never did get the book back.