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Subject: Poor Anne Boleyn
Date Posted: 5/31/2008 10:02 AM ET
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I just watched the final Tudors. Anne Boleyn had her head chopped off.Has anyone been watching this series on Showtime?

Date Posted: 5/31/2008 6:00 PM ET
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I have the DVD's from last season- don't get Showtime.  Even though the historical accuracy isn't that great the series was a fun guilty pleasure for me

 

 

 

 

I just finished reading "Abundance" by Sena Jeter Nasland and enjoyed it very much.  I'm trying to finish a good biography of Mary Stewart by John Guy that I've been picking away at for some time.



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Date Posted: 5/31/2008 6:16 PM ET
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Anne, you told the ending!!!!

Ha ha just kidding! Reminds me that my dad was watching "Where Eagles Dare" last weekend and we had to leave for an event with 30 minutes left to the movie. He wanted to watch the end. I told him "the German's lose". He just looked at me and then laughed (He was there after all....).

 I don't have showtime so I'm waiting patiently for the next DVD to come out.

 



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Date Posted: 5/31/2008 7:33 PM ET
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Didn't watch the series but have read plenty about her. The quintessential "other woman"; but she did not deserve the fate forced upon her.

Date Posted: 5/31/2008 9:44 PM ET
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Marci : LOL 

Date Posted: 5/31/2008 9:46 PM ET
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You are right the historical accuracy isn't that great but I also enjoy watching it.

Date Posted: 5/31/2008 9:46 PM ET
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Linda: So true she did not deserve the fate forced upon her.

Date Posted: 5/31/2008 10:49 PM ET
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I just finished watching it - very riveting and powerful.  I think Natalie Dormer makes the perfect Anne and she really delivers in this episode.  Season 3 will not be the same without her - maybe her ghost will haunt Henry.

Date Posted: 5/31/2008 10:56 PM ET
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I agree. I will miss  her too. I think Natalie Dormer makes the perfect Anne .It was riveting and powerful episode..

Date Posted: 6/5/2008 10:25 AM ET
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Marci: Too funny.  We have a similar running joke in my family about the movie Titanic.....I can't wait to see how it ends.  LOL

Date Posted: 6/6/2008 9:51 AM ET
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I haven't watched this series yet, but I'm looking forward to seeing it very soon. Even though I know how it ends. ;-)

Date Posted: 6/7/2008 12:35 AM ET
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Since they are not much on accuracy, they could have changed Anne's fate!

They must not think the series will go on for too many years as they'll never be able to dig themselves out of some of the historical holes they've dug. Besides, how are they possibly going to make JRM old, fat and repulsive?

Date Posted: 6/7/2008 9:42 AM ET
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I wondered how they are going to do that also.  I am torn because I like the series and I like JRM just the way he is thank you (although he does look to have gained a little weight in the second season, not much but its noticeable).  OTOH I think they should have kept it historically accurate.  I wonder with the success of the series if they are going to do it past Henry's death?  Of course if they devote one season to each wife that gives them 6 seasons right there.

Date Posted: 6/7/2008 10:08 AM ET
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From what I've read, Season three is supposed to cover Jane Seymour and Anne of Cleves.  Plus, JRM has only committed to three seasons.  I still really think the series is going to lose a lot of its sizzle (and therefore probably its popularity) with the loss of Natalie Dormer.  I just don't see the same spark and chemistry with the actress playing Jane Seymour - which may be closer to the truth since I think she was pretty much the total opposite of Anne.  It doesn't make for riveting TV though.

Date Posted: 6/7/2008 10:19 AM ET
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My sister brought up an interesting point a few days ago. She just finished watching Season one, and said, "By the time he married Anne, wasn't he already starting to get fat?" Hm.... interesting. It has been years since I read The Autobiography of Henry VIII, so I don't remember, but still, I wonder how or even if they will make him morbidly obese. That too will probably make the show lose some popularity, since I'd say most people (especially those who aren't watching it for its historical value) don't want to watch a show with a super fat man as the main character.

Date Posted: 6/7/2008 12:20 PM ET
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In the Jane Seymour period, there was more court intrigue than say bodice ripping.... The Seymours rising and the Boleyns falling and everyone jockying for position. And of course, Henry's anticipation for a male heir and the eventual downfall of Cromwell due to the Anne of Cleves marriage, et al.

JRM has a slight build. I can see no way they can pad him up to be realistically grotesquely obese. But then again, they've had us suspend belief before, so perhaps Henry will just become more unhinged instead of the image we have in our minds of him as a big, heavy man. Heck, a point has always been made about how Anne Boleyn had coal black eyes and Natalie Dormer has blue ones....

Date Posted: 6/7/2008 4:00 PM ET
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I think if they fattened up JRM the show would lose alot of it's glamour and more than likely lose viewers. I started watching the show before reading anything about the Tudor era and I would imagine most of the audience watches the show only and knows nothing about the Tudors. Heck, I know some people that watch the show only because of JRM and Henry Cavill. ;)

Date Posted: 6/7/2008 7:28 PM ET
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Well, when you get right down to it, why don't they portray Henry as the strawberry blonde/redhead that he actually was?  Even in The Other Boleyn Girl  he is shown as a brunette.   Where do they think Elizabeth got the red hair from?  I believe that at least by the Jane Seymor era Henry  was getting heavy, certainly by the time he married Anne of Cleves.  There is an old series "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" that was on Masterpiece Theatre years ago,  The actor portrays Henry from young king to his corpulent end and does a fantastic job.  If you ever see it at the rental store watch the episodes!  They aren't as fun and glamorous as "The Tudors", but historically are very good.  I did love Natalie Dormer as Anne Boleyn though, even with the blue "cat eyes".  I could totally believe someone would turn their world upside down for her.  She did a marvelous and powerful portrayal.



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Date Posted: 6/7/2008 8:47 PM ET
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I'd tune in to watch JRM and Henry Cavill (YUMMY!) tie their shoes!

Date Posted: 6/8/2008 11:05 AM ET
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I don't disagree with you there.  They are nice eye candy!

Date Posted: 6/8/2008 9:09 PM ET
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JRM is always an interesting actor to watch but I think that Henry Cavill is dead sexy. Does anyone have any good suggestions of films he's been in before?

Date Posted: 6/8/2008 9:22 PM ET
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Here's the whole list for you Marci. I've never seen him in anything else either.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0147147/

Date Posted: 6/11/2008 3:18 PM ET
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I LOVE this show! I hope they come up with a creative way to have Natalie Dormer come back at least for a couple episodes...like flash backs or something. hmmmm. but as long as Henry Cavill doesn't go anywhere I will stay tuned!
Date Posted: 6/20/2008 11:14 AM ET
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I started to watch this last night (thanks, Netflix!) and was horrified.  There are so many historical inaccuracies and I'm just not buying JRM as Henry VIII.  (Although he does look mighty fine sans shirt...)  I kept thinking the man who played Buckingham would have made a much better Henry - he has the physical presence that JRM lacks.  

I only got through part of the first season and since it's in my Netflix queue, I figure I'll keep watching.  It's a guilty pleasure -- but I get to see a nekkid JRM now and then. 

On a positive note, I think Sam Neill as Wosley is wonderfully cast.   I hate knowing what happens to Thomas More though. 

Date Posted: 6/20/2008 1:06 PM ET
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My sister brought up an interesting point a few days ago. She just finished watching Season one, and said, "By the time he married Anne, wasn't he already starting to get fat?" Hm.... interesting. It has been years since I read The Autobiography of Henry VIII, so I don't remember, but still, I wonder how or even if they will make him morbidly obese.

I re-read Alison Weir's The Six Wives of Henry VIII last year, and as I remember, Henry had the jousting accident that caused a chronic wound to his leg toward the end of his marriage to Anne Boleyn. After the accident, he could not be as physically active (because the wound never healed properly and would reopen). That's when he turned more and more to the pleasures of the banquet table.

Anne miscarried a male fetus days after Henry's accident, which sealed her fate. She blamed the shock of the accident for causing the miscarriage. Henry was out cold for awhile, and many courtiers feared he would die.

Re: The Tudors. I haven't watched any of the series yet, but I have it queued up at Netflix. Since I already know there are historical inaccuracies, I'm going to approach watching it as a guilty pleasure/eye candy. I also own the classic BBC series on Henry VIII and Elizabeth Tudor on DVD. I really need to make time to watch them!



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