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Subject: Posted a popular book...seems like all those requesting it so far have RCs
Date Posted: 9/29/2015 12:51 PM ET
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I suppose it is a coincidence that the people who requested this book so far all have RCs/  Having an RC doesn't move you up to the front of the line, right?

Date Posted: 9/29/2015 1:44 PM ET
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No, but when you're declined a lot eventually you will end up at the front.

At some point all the people in between the RC's have gotten the book and those with RC's have just accumulated at the front of the line

Date Posted: 9/29/2015 2:04 PM ET
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Never realized but of course all the RC bunch together at the front because previous posters have declined. Now I understand. Does not really help the issue but I get it. My frustration with the process has led me to stop posting wish listed book.Too bad posters can not indicate an unwillingness to accept RCs so there is not so much time wasted waiting 48 hours only to decline when there was no hope to begin with. And then have the process repeat again and again. I understand it may be unpopular, but some posters will not accept RCs period, so why not let their account so indicate, and let it go fifo to next in line without RCs.

Date Posted: 9/29/2015 2:32 PM ET
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Most people do accept RC's if they can from what I read. I have a dog, if you're allergic you should have the RC..i can't send it to you..non smoking, then I can etc. Most RC's are very reasonable...although Ive had 2 that I declined because the conditions made me nervous.
Date Posted: 9/29/2015 2:59 PM ET
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Just curious Mary..why do you keep a bookshelf? I just never heard of someone not posting WL books but keeping a bookshelf with books that can sit for a long time and not be requested.
Date Posted: 9/29/2015 3:49 PM ET
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Mostly, I just find RC requestor's problems in waiting and I do my best to avoid problems.Mostly, my PBS requests go to my son and mother-in-law. I personally get few books from PBS. I fund their requests largely from books I purchase new from BN. I just find the arrogance of RC off[ putting and will not engage in those requests.

Date Posted: 9/29/2015 4:25 PM ET
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Not trying to change how anyone uses PBS and everyone can decline RC's but is it really arrogant if people have allergies, or don't want a moldy smell to books? I don't know..I have had 2 RC's that I feel were a doozy and said no because I figured that would've been a problem but like dog dander. If you're allergic to dogs than my books are not for you, while my dog doen't go where I keep books, he sheds a lot! My youngest goes to college out of state and he says Buck's fur followed him to college! lol

 

I hear you on some RC's though..I had one who wanted collectible books only and one of her conditions for collecible was read once..oh boy..prove that you know? Her other conditions were to look at every page make sure here wasn't a crease, etc I was tired just reading all the RC's that went with wanting a collectible book. 

The other one I rejected was based on odors, it stated to make sure several people "took a good whif" to make sure it was odor free. Umm no..just no...

I'm sure others have had some wonkier RC's than those but those 2 were so offputting!!!



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Date Posted: 9/29/2015 4:46 PM ET
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So often I have read an RC and felt it was the member venting about a past book. Very effective way to get me to turn down your RC.

Date Posted: 9/29/2015 5:13 PM ET
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The collectible one threw me. It was a hc book but when someone wants a book read once and it needs to be in collectible condition, I had to turn it down. You can buy a brand new book that might not fit someone's idea of collectible condition.
Date Posted: 9/29/2015 5:18 PM ET
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Here is the thing. If I receive a book from PBS, I do not have RSs and have no clue where the book was before I got it. I am just happy to get it and have read it. I maybe have it in my possession a week. Would that week clear any past issue or any other issues. Think not. No way I can assure anything about a used book. It is a used book site and no one else can either. In current home is absurd. Are all sins of a book absolved by being in my home for a week????????????? I do not want to cater to this even if I bought the book new, just bad mojo.



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Date Posted: 9/29/2015 5:25 PM ET
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I hope I don't jinx myself but I have never had a problem with the RC's. No one has marked it RWAP but like I said, I won't send if they say no pets, current home is easy and honesly if you're buying new you won't have this but I buy in a used bookstore and I can smell smoke in a book. Iwouldn't send in that case even though my house is a non smoking home.

 

Honestly, I never had a problem transaction (Knock on wood, cross fingers and everything else so I don't jinx myself here) with RC's. I have rejected a few though. It's whatever anyone feels though..if someone else feels it's unreasonable great. I get RC's about HC all the time..must have dj. Mine always do so I send them..

hey just thought of this, anyone ever have someone have RC's then send you a pm saying hey forget those, I want the book? I always thought that was weird.

Date Posted: 9/29/2015 6:12 PM ET
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I rejected the RCs that were posted for this book because they were vague, subjective,  funny but just too weird (must not have anything that would make a dog bark at it), asked me to PM them (um..how could I without accepting the RC?)....

Date Posted: 9/29/2015 6:22 PM ET
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Ive gotten some that say PM before rejecting but honestly no pets is no pets and I do have pets...that PM thing is weird too..

Date Posted: 9/30/2015 9:53 AM ET
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hey just thought of this, anyone ever have someone have RC's then send you a pm saying hey forget those, I want the book?

Yes, I had this happen once. My book met the RCs anyway so it wasn't a problem. I've also had members order with the RC in place, then cancel, then reorder with the RCs turned off. That happened once, all before I logged on. The only reason I knew is that the member PMd me to explain.

Ive gotten some that say PM before rejecting

This I refuse to do. The RC should be clear and easily understandable. While I am very willing to send to those with RCs, I will not engage in an exchange of PMs in order for you (generic you) to decide if you want my book. The RC should state what you want or don't want, and I should be able to take a good look at the book and see if it meets the RC. No discussion necessary. And plus, the vast majority if "PM before declining" RCs that I've gotten never include the requestor's ID.

I find that the vast majority of RCs I see are of the "not currently in a smoking home" variety, and I always accept those. I see a few "HCs must have DJ RCs too, and those I can easily accept or decline based on the presence or absence of the DJ. I decline pet/cat RCs. The weird ones are few and far between, but those I simply read and make a decision. The one that always gets me is when I get a request for a book that's 30 years old with an RC for no yellowed pages. I decline and think to myself, "Good luck with that one..."

 

 

Date Posted: 9/30/2015 1:28 PM ET
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I have an RC for no smokey books but I don't need to apply my RC to audio books.  I don't have to worry about discs because I can listen without smelling the discs.  When you order a book there's an option to not use the RC.  After ordering a dozen audio books I'm starting to remember to turn off my RC.  Most members didn't mind and some told me it's smoke free. After I ordered one I noticed they said on their profile they smoke.  So I figured they will decline because of my RC.  I don't think they noticed my RC and the mailed it me and it's fine.  It's nice to get everything smoke-free but for some things it's not important. 

Date Posted: 9/30/2015 10:58 PM ET
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Sheryl: While I am very willing to send to those with RCs, I will not engage in an exchange of PMs in order for you (generic you) to decide if you want my book. The RC should state what you want or don't want, and I should be able to take a good look at the book and see if it meets the RC. No discussion necessary. And plus, the vast majority if "PM before declining" RCs that I've gotten never include the requestor's ID.

I don't like RCs asking for PMs, but I thought that this portion of the FAQ might be helpful if a book is low on wishers / the only has wishers with "PM me" RCs:

  • If a requestor's Requestor Conditions ask you to contact him or her (for example "PM me to check"), we recommend DECLINING the request by clicking "Does Not Meet Conditions".
    • The RC feature is not supposed to prolong or complicate swapping
    • You can type in as your 'reason for declining' that "Sorry, but there is no way to contact you without accepting the request; according to the Help Center and the site rules, RCs should be clearly worded and not ask for contact or discussion."
  • However, if you want to discuss this with the requestor :
    • click  (personal message) on the request to communicate with the requestor further. Again, this should NOT be necessary--Requestor Conditions should be clear and easily interpretable without further discussion. If you send a PM about the book describing it or asking for clarification of the conditions:
      • If the requestor's conditions ASKED for contact, the requestor will have to cancel if the book is not acceptable.
      • If the requestor's conditions DID NOT ASK for contact, the sender will then need to cancel if the book is not acceptable.
        • This means that the sender will need to repost the book to offer it for swapping again
      • If this book clearly did not meet the conditions (no further clarification of/communication about the conditions was needed, whether or not communication was asked for) OR if the book is unpostable, the sender will need to cancel.  (If the book was unpostable in the first place, it should not have been Posted, and should not be reposted.)


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Date Posted: 10/1/2015 9:06 AM ET
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Thanks Renee. When I decline RCs that ask for contact I more or less say the same thing that the HC recommends. As much as I'd love the credit, every time I've had a book requested (either through FIFO or low wishers) that I declined to send due to RCs, it was usually requested again by a different member pretty shortly thereafter.

Date Posted: 10/2/2015 1:04 AM ET
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I have an RC for no ex-library books. My reason why is very strange. As a youth, I frequented the public library often. Unfortunately, one day a vagrant defecated throughout the library, different floors, smearing many books. I have not been able to stomach the thought of a library book since then. However, my daughter has gone to my hometown library and deemed it the most beautiful library she has ever seen. No preconceived notions. When I have been told, "sorry, the book is a discarded library book, but in excellent condition" I immediately turn off my RC and have them send it. No issues at all. Just early traumatic event.

In turn, I accept rc's if my book meets them, and have never been burned.

 

Date Posted: 10/2/2015 3:10 AM ET
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I have rc's for hi-lighting, underlining and writing on the page.

Date Posted: 10/2/2015 12:20 PM ET
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It's not a coincidence. You see there are a lot of members here who like to only send to members without RC's.  Soooo..... the members without RC's get more books and the members with RC's get shuffled down.   Think of it like a bag of popcorn with the kernels going to the bottom. You're just at the "bottom of the bag".


 

(BTW I almost always send to members with RCs and I've never had a problem there.)

Date Posted: 10/2/2015 2:27 PM ET
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I don't have RC's but I was tempted to add one ..no ripped, taped together books. I've only had that 2x so it isn't worth it to have an RC