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Subject: question that I have never seen before
Date Posted: 1/8/2008 9:20 PM ET
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being new to the site I have a question. I got a request for a book. requestor states no library books

 

i can respect that. then it states if reciever does not like condition of book will not give you aq credit after  you

 

mailed the book? Please explain. i do not feel a good vibe on this need advise from seasoned member

Date Posted: 1/8/2008 9:22 PM ET
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sorry..im not a seasoned member but i wouldnt mail to that requestor.  he/she just sounds like trouble.  the last thing i want.

Date Posted: 1/8/2008 9:26 PM ET
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Dana,

Did the requestor's conditions state that they wouldn't give you credit?  Or  were they just quoting from the PBS Help Center?  The PBS guidelines state that if a person sends a book that violates someone's requestor conditions, the requestor should ask for their credit back from the sender.



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Date Posted: 1/8/2008 9:27 PM ET
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Hi Dana and welcome,

That is very much against the rules here. If a person receives a book, even if the book comes late or in a non-acceptable condition, they must mark it recieved. I, too, would be very reluctant to trade with someone with a condition like that. I also think that the PBS Team would be interested to know about that condtion as it is not in the spirit of this site.

I think that the Help Center would be a place you may want to visit. Most topics are covered there and a lot of good information is broken down into categories, making it easy to read.

Subject: i do not have to send a book if not comfortable
Date Posted: 1/8/2008 9:44 PM ET
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thansk for all the input so i do not have to send a book if I smell trouble,.

thanks

Date Posted: 1/8/2008 9:49 PM ET
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How in the world could YOU know what THEY want if they don't specify?  I would steer clear of that one and just choose "Does not meet requestor conditions" because the lack of specifics make it impossible for you to tell.

Subject: thanks for all the input
Date Posted: 1/8/2008 10:16 PM ET
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thanks for all of your input i pm her and i will await her reply. but it doesn't sound kosher.

if anyone is that concerned about the book she needs to go but it retail. come on some people are

jsut asking to much

 

 

Subject: thanks for all the input
Date Posted: 1/8/2008 10:16 PM ET
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thanks for all of your input i pm her and i will await her reply. but it doesn't sound kosher.

if anyone is that concerned about the book she needs to go but it retail. come on some people are

jsut asking to much

 

 

Date Posted: 1/8/2008 10:55 PM ET
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I would reject that one.  I posted a 20yr old WL paperback once.  There were 84 people waiting for it since it was OOP and by a currently very popular paranormal author.  The 1st person had conditions that basically said "I want the books I receive to be like brand new books"-um hello it's a 20yr old used book.  I rejected it and put in my reasoning that It was an old book and I was afraid I wouldn't get my credit.  The next person was so excited to receive the book.  The book was in superior condition but I rejected it anyway.   With conditions like that, this person is probably used to the rejection of their book requests. 

Subject: REPLY FROM MEMBER WHO IS SUPER PICKY
Date Posted: 1/9/2008 2:34 PM ET
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hi

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Date Posted: 1/9/2008 2:37 PM ET
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hi

i  got a reply from a member who reqwuested a book and was acting rather upity.

so I told her that i owuld not be sending it to her. She claimed that a member does not have to give you a point

 if the condition is not to her liking. i  suggested she reads the rules. I need points but that badly. I belive in gonig with my gut and  ther gut says get away quick.

 

I also advised the member if they are so concerned about book condition to go to purchase it retail

 

i had to say something and could not let it go

 

thanks for listening

 

Date Posted: 1/9/2008 3:21 PM ET
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I think you need to let R&R (the site owners) know who this member is.  You can send them feedback by using the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of every page.

Subject: Requests
Date Posted: 1/9/2008 5:12 PM ET
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I am the "uppity" member you are speaking of. My "special request" simply says "No former library books, please." That is the only text I providied for my rquestor conditions. Any other text in the message you received was written by the site hosts. It is their language not mine.

You can add "requestor conditions" under you account info.

Kitty

Date Posted: 1/9/2008 5:19 PM ET
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Kitty,

That's what I thought might have happened.    :-)  

Date Posted: 1/9/2008 5:28 PM ET
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Ok that makes sense. I thought the person actually put in their conditions that they will only give a credit if the book meets their approval not necessarily PBS guidelines.  That makes more sense. So I would accept it it wasn't a former library book. 

Date Posted: 1/9/2008 7:37 PM ET
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Dana, I hope this makes you feel better about mailing your books to people with requestor conditions!  It sounds like the transaction would have gone smoothly as long as the book wasn't a library book :)

Kitty, thanks for coming in and clearing up the misunderstanding.

Subject: comments from Kitty on what happened
Date Posted: 1/9/2008 9:17 PM ET
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there are 2 sides to every story Kitty.  Before i replied to you I asked on the website about the situation as I am a new member. Most people did advise me that if you feel uncomfortable with a request do not agree to send them . See above posts were members suggested that i do not send the book to you

Here is what you send me: We don't have to accept or give up a credit for books in poor conditionif we state in our request that you agree the book is in good condition.  the rules say you need to give the member a credit.

 

i would not send anything out that i would not want to recieve./ the golden rule do unto othert

Please drop it and let it go

 

thanks



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Date Posted: 1/9/2008 9:39 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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You don't have to trade with anyone you feel uncomfortable with. But it does sound the the wording on Requestor Conditions (RCs) may be causing you to be concerned more than you need to be. When the request pops up, it states the RCs (Kittys was 'no x-library books) and then the system wording tells you that you will not get the credit if you send a book that does not meet the requesters conditions. That statement is only referring to the stated conditions. In this case, no library books,  not the general condition of the book. As long as your book meets the RCs stated in that box (and of course the site's posting conditions) then you will get to keep your credit. So in this situation, as long as your book met PBS standards and was not an x-library book, then Kitty would have had to mark the book received and you would get your credit.

Also , the wording is a little off, you always get the credit. The credit is given to you when the book is marked received with a problem.Then the receiver must contact you, tell what was wrong with the transaction, and request the credit back. If you do send a book that violates RCs, you must return the credit. 

That is how RCs will be shown. As long as you meet the conditions of the site and the conditions stated on that page, you will be fine and they will be required to give you your credit. If someone is not marking books correctly so they  don't need to give up the credits and follow the proper procedure to get them back, their account will be marked and they could get booted from the site.

Don't worry. The majority of traders here are great.

Date Posted: 1/9/2008 9:41 PM ET
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Dana--

Welcome to the addiction of PBS :-)  Although perhaps not worded as clearly as it could be, Kitty's statements are accurate, per PBS guidelines.  http://www.paperbackswap.com/help/help_item.php?id=529#Violation  In a nutshell, if someone sets requestor conditions and the book they receives violates those conditions, they can request their credit be returned.

Most folks do follow the rules, and only send items which they would want to receive, but there are enough folks who don't always play so nicely (I've had books from new members who didn't know there were condition rules) that some feel a need or have a desire to use requestor conditions.  I hope that helps clarify.

 

Cheers,

Catt

Subject: Requestor Conditions
Date Posted: 1/10/2008 12:22 AM ET
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Thanks Melanie for clarifying the wording of the Requestor Conditions. I think Dana read the PBS Requestor Conditions and thought I had added all that text myself. I didn't. That's just the way PBS lets you know that you can't "fake" that your book meets a requestors' conditions. If you do send a book that doesn't meet the conditions, the receiver doesn't have to give up a credit.

I have been a member since 2005 and have only had positive interactions. And everyone I have dealt with has followed the rules and a lot of folks even send nice thank you messages when they receive your book. I have never heard anyone complain about a Requestor Condition before. "No library books" isn't really that restrictive. I have managed to trade a lot of books despite that condition.

I'm not uppity, I am just a book lover.

:)

Kitty

 

Cathy A. (Cathy) - ,
Date Posted: 1/10/2008 11:31 AM ET
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Dana,

You said:

I also advised the member if they are so concerned about book condition to go to purchase it retail

That was really not appropriate! If you don't want to send the book, just say you're sorry and move on. You have a right to decline a request with conditions you don't like, but the requestor has an equal right to set any conditions she wants. Making comments like "go buy it new" is not going to help you or anyone else.

Subject: reply to the above
Date Posted: 1/10/2008 3:54 PM ET
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This a book site to trade books The only way to guarantee the books condition  100%, is to see it yourself.

The best place to purchase it if anyone is concerned about the condition is to see it in person ahead

 of time would be at the store  Remember we all have our thoughts and ideas. That is what makes us who we

are and individuals. Sometimes we agree to disagree. I have read all the posts I am new as i stated and

it is time for me and hopefully everyone else to put the past to rest.

Thank you for all of your input.

 

 

 



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