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Subject: Question regarding turning away Requests with Conditions
Date Posted: 3/2/2008 9:14 PM ET
Member Since: 9/3/2007
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I see that when we refuse a book request due to not meeting conditions, it says it will be saved to a transaction file (or something to that effect) Is that some sort of black mark against me?

After all the discussion about non smoking requests - and seeing two requests in a row that were phrased quite rudely - I am tempted to turn the second one as well - is that a bad thing?


(I don't smoke, but as mentioned earlier - since we often get used books - who knows their history?)

Last Edited on: 3/2/08 9:36 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 3/2/2008 9:38 PM ET
Member Since: 10/1/2007
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I don't know for sure, but I can't imagine it would count against you to turn down requestor conditions.  After all, those are conditions that go above & beyond the basic requirements for posting books, so it would make no sense to penalize you.  Maybe they have to keep track to ensure the request moves down the FIFO line without bumping back to you after you decline it.

Anyway, it sounds like there are some folks who have been members for a long time and turn down all RCs, so I wouldn't worry about it. 

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 10:14 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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It goes on record just to keep it from giving the request to you again.  But it doesn't go against you. If you turn down a request because of conditions, the book goes back on your shelf and you retain your place in the FIFO line.  If you turn down a lot of requests w/o conditions that might go against you because the books should be on your shelf if you can't end them.  But don't worry about turning down for conditions.

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 10:17 PM ET
Member Since: 5/10/2007
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Most of the time (not all) the non smoking condition refers to where the book is NOW.  If you do not smoke and the book doesn't smell like smoke (and most non smokers would know) then it is more than likely safe to send.

I have in my RC that it not be in a currently smoking household.  I know that there is no way to know the history before you got the book (unless you got it from friends or family and they do or don't smoke).

If the RC is vague, I wouldn't blame you for turning it down. I would suggest putting in the reason why box that while you aren't in a smoking household you don't know the history and that the RC was rather vague.  Perhaps that will get someone to update their RC

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 10:24 PM ET
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I also suspect that the reason for refusing the request due to RCs is kept so that when you reach a particular number of rejections, those for RCs are sent to a different count and do not trip the flags. IE when they look thru the accounts with excessive rejections, those rejections for RCs won't be counted.

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 11:18 PM ET
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Last Edited on: 1/17/09 7:04 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/3/2008 8:56 AM ET
Member Since: 6/20/2007
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There are several statements in the help center that specifically tell people that members generally err on the side of caution in dealing with RCs and that if potential senders are unsure, they tend to turn down the request.  It also mentions that those with RCs will see more of their requests declined.  This leads me to believe that there is no black mark against someone for turning down a request due to RCs.

In one of my first transactions, the RC referred to "excessive yellowing".  I turned it down, as what is excessive to you might not be excessive to me...excessive is too subjective a term for me to feel comfortable with.  But I was so worried that I would "look bad" for turning down one of my first requests!  So rest assured, you are fine!!

I accept requests that ask that books not come from a smoking home, but I turn down all requests based on "musty smells" or some such.  Several books on my shelf are from the 60s and 70s...and smell is so subjective.  But since there is no smoking allowed in my house, I know that my books don't smell of smoke!  I also gladly accept conditions related to military APO/FPO addresses (and usually add bonus books to these boxes).  I did decline a request where the person had 3 separate RCs, one of which was to PM them if you couldn't mail the book within 3 days.  I can't get to the PO on the days I work, so whether or not I get your book out in 3 days depends on what day you order it.  I decline all RC's that ask for a PM first.  I accept all RCs that ask for plastic wrap (I use Tyvek anyway). 

The point of my ramble...you will see many different RCs.  Feel free to evaluate them, decide which you are OK with, and which you are not, and accept or decline accordingly without worry!

Edited because I can't type on Monday mornings!

Last Edited on: 3/3/08 8:57 AM ET - Total times edited: 1