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M.E. (ryenke) -
Subject: Question - no x-library RC's
Date Posted: 1/26/2010 11:12 PM ET
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I have been getting a lot of RC's lately saying no ex-library books (or no ex library books if they are fiction.)

This has been no problem, as I have very few ex-library books.

But, I am curious - why?  I just can't figure out what people have against ex library books.  I've recieved a few from my FIFO requests and I'm trying to figure out what bothers people that they just don't want those books.  (And what difference does fiction/non-fiction possibly make with regards to ex-library books???)

Absolutely no criticism intended:  I'm probably just thick and can't figure out why they are so disliked.

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 11:22 PM ET
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Some ex-lib are really worn, especially children's and popluar paperback. I think that has gotten better and I see and get many like-new ex-library books. A few of my nonpostables I've received were ex-lib and the sender seemed to think that the rule saying ex-lib are allowed was a free ticket to send them in any condition. 

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 11:35 PM ET
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I like the ex-library hardcovers but not the paperbacks.  I have always liked the protective covering on the hardbacks. The ex-library paperbacks that I have received have been pretty bad. They are very worn, have that stamp on the ends and that pocket in the back. I just don't like them at all. The hardcovers usually are in great shape.

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 11:40 PM ET
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Some people may just dislike the stamps on the books if they plan to keep them. I've been looking on Ebay for a book that is rarely posted here and I could buy it for a reasonable price if I didn't mind ex-library. For this particular book though, I just don't want it to have those stamps on it. Most of the time I don't mind getting or even buying an ex-library book, but sometimes it does matter.

Date Posted: 1/27/2010 7:01 AM ET
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For "keepers," some don't mind the pocket/stamping as much as they do not want the visible spine markings/stickers on their shelves.

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Date Posted: 1/27/2010 9:36 AM ET
Member Since: 6/25/2009
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I am one of those.   I request that the fiction not be x-library.   I'd rather that none were, but there are lot fewer of the non-fiction copies out there, so I allow them to be x-library though I'd really rather they are not.  I keep about 75% of what I request in my permanent library.  I'd like them to look good.  Stuff I'm going to retrade, I don't mind if its x-library but I don't always know if I'm going to retrade the book or keep it.   

Kate -
Date Posted: 1/27/2010 12:40 PM ET
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The only ex-library books I've received have been by far the two books in the worst condition.  One was stained in several places, and I actually had to glue chunks of the other back into the book.  (It still kills me that I didn't even RWAP the latter, I was brand new to PBS and too wimpy.)  I know I can't hold it against ex-library books in general, since the PBS guidelines should have taken care of it, but I definitely don't think of ex-library books quite the same as I used to.

Date Posted: 1/27/2010 12:59 PM ET
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They can be very worn, but there are plenty to be had that are in like new condition too.  I seldom give them a second glance if they don't look good anymore.  Unless they're rare.  I've sold many on half.com that I got at library sales & they were very good to like new except for the stamps & stickers.  I haven't been all that enthused with searching through the FOL sales for in-demand books to resell in a long time though, so I mostly post my FOL finds here (unless I keep them).  But even those in the best condition will almost invariably have a discard stamp and a property of stamp on them somewhere.  No pockets worth mentioning, but tons of barcode stickers & assorted library stickers, which can do some nasty things to the spine & cover of a paperback.  I usually spend a week cleaning & removing stickers after a sale, and then several days checking everything to make sure they don't have any spine cracks or stains, but just like any other books, you can miss things.  And when you have 100 books to clean & check for damage, it can be a challenge.  I usually end up with a grocery sack full of unpostables to take to the thrift store, but I've gotten a lot of good & hard to find books that way.

Date Posted: 1/27/2010 4:58 PM ET
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I pick up a lot of ex-lib. books at our FOL sale that actually look like they've never been read. Some are well-worn and obviously used, but one of the reasons they withdraw books and sell them is because they never or rarely get checked out. I don't bother removing stickers, and rely on people who don't want these books to have an RC stating so.


Date Posted: 1/27/2010 5:19 PM ET
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I pick up a lot of ex-library books at my FOL and most are in good condition and the rest are in excellent condition.  I remove the stickers (when I can), but can't do anything about the stamps.  Our library uses scanners so there are no pockets.  I prefer ex-library books as the plastic covering on the dust jackets keeps them in great conditioin.

However, I seldom pick up an ex-library of a paperback because most are quite worn. 


Date Posted: 1/27/2010 5:19 PM ET
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I never find find nice looking withdrawn books at my library. They are always stained and falling apart.  Like the others said-I think the people that dont' want them are most likely collectors that are keeping the book and don't want the stickers, withdrawn markings and protective cover they put on some books. I happen to find that plastic thingy they put over hardcovers ugly and annoying because I like to remove the dust jacket when I'm reading.  I don't ahve an RC though because I don't keep anything so I don't really care about the occassional ex library book.  But I can see why someone looking for keepers wouldn't want them. 

I would not PM people if sending out an ex-library book. IF they don't want them then they need RCS about them.  I don't negotiate about the condition of the books I post.  All the books I sent are postable. If somecomplained about it and had no RC I would show them the rules and then report it to PBS if htey didn't correct the RWP. 

Date Posted: 1/27/2010 6:23 PM ET
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I don't guess these would qualify as ex-library but our local library (where I volunteer a few days a week) often receives donated books that they just can't use...but are in great shape!  They put them out front for as little as 5 cents up to about 35 cents...I've bought quite a few of these and some of the hardbacks are on my "Keep and Re-read" shelves."  To me books are like old friends and you have to visit them once in awhile!