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Date Posted: 5/19/2010 5:57 PM ET
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Have a question. A book I have been on a wishlist for awhile finally became available to me. It was accepted then the person cancelled the request with the reply "Sorry book is being sent to someone else". I thought if you posted a book and there was a wishlist that it went by whoever was next in line. I have NO conditions so there really was no reason for the person to deny the book other then just not wanting to send it to me.

Date Posted: 5/19/2010 6:17 PM ET
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It might be that the person had the book posted on multiple sites and it was taken by someone on another site.

Date Posted: 5/19/2010 6:48 PM ET
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I am sorry that happened. I too assumed once a book is posted here and its WL then it will be sent to the first in line. Far as I know you promise to send it when you enter it in to your bookshelf.

I do know some post the same books at other sites BUT really its not that hard to see if the book is WL on the site.

I would contact TPTB and let them know about it.. sure its a small thing but if they do it once they will do it again and dissapoint another person.
 

Date Posted: 5/19/2010 6:54 PM ET
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I don't know if I would contact TPTB about it. yes, it is disappointing that someone would do that, but on the other hand, the Cancel button is there because people are allowed to cancel a book offer for whatever reason they want to.

TPTB is already (presumably) tracking people who cancel too many orders, and looking into their accounts.

Yes, you promise to send books when you post them, but on the other hand, stuff happens. For example, I have 200+ books posted to my bookshelf, but if they were all ordered today by different people, you better believe I would be cancelling orders left and right.

Date Posted: 5/19/2010 7:51 PM ET
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It's also possible that they were trying to post it directly to someone elses WL and made a mistake that sent it to FIFO.   Or they may not have known it was WL and posted it to do the Mail To A Friend Option and then were surprised to see the book being on WL hold. 

ETA: I would not report them to PBS. IF this is something do regularly-PBS will see a pattern of cancelled WL books and PMs about the book going to someone else and talk to them about it.



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Date Posted: 5/19/2010 11:42 PM ET
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I was just wondering how it worked. I wouldn't report them. They do have the choice not to send it to me or anyone else. I didn't even think about it being posted somewhere else. I didn't even know that was an option. Thanks for the replies :)

Date Posted: 5/19/2010 11:58 PM ET
Member Since: 12/9/2007
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It may just be me, in fact I'm sure it is.  But I remember that PBS said that if you post a book you are obligated to send it when requested.  So it bothers me that members post the same books on two different sites.  I'm probably biased since I only do PBS.  But none the less it's like breaking a promise. 

In the case of trying to post to a friend directly and having it go FIFO instead, well, I still think it should go to the FIFO person just because they've been waiting and the book was offered to them by the system.

It's just the way I think.  But I wouldn't "report" them.

Ruth

Date Posted: 5/20/2010 12:06 AM ET
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Ruth thats how I roll. If I post a book and there is a waiting list for it then I send it to whoever is first in line. Now if the person has a blue million conditions I will decline it because I get a lot of my books from paperbackswap and I can't vouch for every single book I get where it comes from ect.

I guess it just irks me is all. I have had this one particular book on my list for a long time. I don't post any of my books on other sites either because for me its just easier to deal with one. Oh well such as life I suppose. I know I will get the book eventually thats the great thing about this site.

Date Posted: 5/20/2010 12:14 AM ET
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"...But I remember that PBS said that if you post a book you are obligated to send it when requested..."  +1

For a brief time I posted books on another site, but rarely the same books (kept 2 separate boxes) and never cross post wishlisted books.  If a book somehow ends up posted in the wrong place, I would pm "posted in error" instead of saying "I sent it to someone else".

Date Posted: 5/20/2010 6:45 AM ET
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I also do 2 trading sites and I do think it's rude to put a WL up on both sites. But many people do this when they're new and don't realize books might be put on WL hold like that. Or they don't know how to tell if a book is WL, they just post and assume they'll be able to delete it if it's requested somewhere else.  A high # of cancelled WL books would draw the attention of PBS.  I can't imagine anyone wanted a credit for another tradiing site over a PBS credit.  I wouldn't.  I would much rather send a book out here than the other site. 

I've also posted WL books by accident.  One time I bought a bunch of what I thought would be heavily posted books at the thrift store for super cheap.  I decided to post them all to work their way up FIFO while I read them. Well 1 was actually WL and of course it was the one I wanted to read the most.  I just chose the longest mail by date and read it first thing. 

But I have cancelled a couple of requests because I was trying to post a WL directly to someone and made a mistake somewhere.  But now I've learned how to do that w/o the book going to FIFO. 

Date Posted: 5/20/2010 9:58 AM ET
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I'm guessing they meant to post directly to a buddy's list and mistakenly posted it to FIFO. That is allowed, and it sucks that they'd cancel the order once they had offered it and you'd accepted...that's a questionable area. I've had it happen to me before too, and for that book I'd been at #1 for like a year--the book was a very rarely posted one--and I waited at least another year after that before it was posted again. BUT...while I might be disappointed, it's not something I'd report anyone over. If I were the sender, I'd probably curse myself up and down but still send it to the person I accidentally posted it to. Why should they pay for my mistake? But that's just me.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 5/20/2010 11:54 AM ET
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I think you have to keep in mind that by the time someone actually makes that mistake, they've already made a commitment to send the book to someone else - possibly a buddy - and it's easier to cancel & apologize to the anonymous person for the mistake than it is to go back and tell your buddy, who you promised the book to, that oops... it looks like you'll be sending it FIFO after all.

Date Posted: 5/20/2010 12:28 PM ET
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Real life happens, and there's several legitimate (and not so much) scenarios that could have happened.  In my opinion, the pm Amber received could have been worded better as it comes across almost rude rather than appologetic. 

Date Posted: 5/20/2010 12:50 PM ET
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Amber I'm sorry that happened to you. I know how disapointing it can be when you've waited for so long to get a WL book , and then it gets posted to you and then they cancel.

Date Posted: 5/20/2010 3:44 PM ET
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My understanding is that at the time you post a book, you should intend to send it when it's requested.  But if something changes, the cancel button is there.  If she posted it accidentally, she was not able to cancel until somebody accepted the offer -- that's when the cancel button first appears.

And I talked to a couple members who had intended to import a long list of ISBNs they wanted to their Wish List, but made a mistake and posted them instead.  One person posted over 70 wish list books this way -- books he didn't have, of course.  I'm pretty sure the PBS Team helped him cancel the transactions, but it was quite something! indecision