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Subject: RC concern
Date Posted: 11/21/2011 10:52 AM ET
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A member ordered seven books from me with the following RC: I realize that you don't know where the books have been prior to you, so all I ask is that they are not currently in a smoking home. And while my home is smoke free so my books definitely meet this requirement...I still worry that books I have received in previous trades may have traveled thru or come from smoking homes. What if there is a smell that has linger long enough and strong enough to bother the recipient ?wouldn't that sort of leave me open to a possible RWAP if they feel I didn't abide by their RC???
Date Posted: 11/21/2011 10:57 AM ET
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If none of the books you have received in prior trades have any smoke smell, I'd not worry about it.  Sounds like the receiver is more concerned with a strong smoke smell (which would often come from a smoker's home).  Since your books meet the conditions requested, I'd send the books out.

Date Posted: 11/21/2011 10:58 AM ET
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I am a non-smoker and yet I do not use an RC. I do however trust my nose. Flip the pages and sniff-- or put in a plastic bag and sniff. If there is any doubt don't mail it. I never took the time to smell my books before PBS.

Date Posted: 11/21/2011 11:00 AM ET
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You can send the books knowing that you are following the RC. If the books came previously from a smoker, and the person can somehow detect it, you are still in the clear. I doubt they'd make a fuss but if they do, you aren't obligated to return any credits. It ultimately depends on your comfort level though.

Since you're doing a deal, you could explain your reservations and ask her to remove the RC for this transaction.

Oh I see, not a deal. Well, you could still ask.

Last Edited on: 11/21/11 12:06 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 11/21/2011 12:28 PM ET
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I think the RC is pretty clear. It is really very specific. It specifically says that she knows that the books may have a past which is unknown to you, AND that she wants the books anyway unless YOU smoke.

I don't see how she can word that to be any more clear.

I really don't think you need to try to read into it more than what it says.

I think you can happily accept the RC with no qualms whatsoever.

Date Posted: 11/21/2011 12:32 PM ET
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I've gotten several of these requests and pretty much refuse to send out the book if it has *any* smell to it.  Some smell musty to me (like an old paperback) so I consider that a smoke smell as a precaution.  It took longer to send along that book that had 2 RCs of smoke smell but eventually it went along.

Date Posted: 11/21/2011 1:03 PM ET
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Some smell musty to me (like an old paperback) so I consider that a smoke smell as a precaution.

How very odd.


It really comes down to whether you want to send the books or not. If the books don't smell to you, you are saying you are in a nonsmoking household, so there is nothing more the requester can do. Either you accept it, or you turn it down. If they RWAP it and say something smells, you explain your home is non-smoking and therefore you met the RCs and will not be returning any credits. End of story. The site understands that sometimes both sides have a different perspective and an agreement can't be reached.

Date Posted: 11/21/2011 1:09 PM ET
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What Sara said yes

Date Posted: 11/21/2011 5:03 PM ET
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I agree with Sara too. If they specifically say "not currently in a smoking home" if you don't smoke, your books meet the RC.  If they later complain that they smell smokey, you can say, "I do not smoke, so my books met your RC. Smell was not mentioned." And I would not return the credit--they need to be specific in the RC as to EXACTLY what they want.

If they say "no smoky smells" I would decline because smell is a subjective sense. You may not smell anything but they may have a super-sensitive nose.


Date Posted: 11/21/2011 9:46 PM ET
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I'd send them.  It specifically says not currently in a smoking home.  Yours isn't so I'd think they meet the RC no problem.

Date Posted: 11/24/2011 7:46 PM ET
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I've sent many books to people with that RC and never had a problem.
Date Posted: 11/25/2011 12:39 AM ET
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I have a smoke RC.  I basically recommend folks to use the "currently" if they do not want smoky books, but getting one is not a life threatening issue.   To separate them from members with severe health issues such as asthma. 

I'd recommend turning it down if you can smell smoke.  But face it, not everyone has a sense of smell.  We can use glasses to improve our eyesight.  But there is nothing to help if we lose our sense of smell.

I've had a few books that I had to send out without ever reading.  One that did not make it into the house it was so bad.  And at least 30 that I put with baking soda to try to remove the smoke.  I know it is a risk I take using PBS.  I accept that risk. 

I've never RWAP over smoke as I know it is so subjective.  If a member did say in their profile that they do smoke and sent to book anyway, then I'd think about marking it RWAP. 

Last Edited on: 11/25/11 3:05 AM ET - Total times edited: 1