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As some of you may remember, in the fall of 2012 I took a trip to England - London & York. It was my second trip as I had also visited in 2005 - London & the Salisbury Plain / Wiltshire - Stonehenge, Avebury, Glastonbury, Bath, etc. There are periods/parts of British history that I know quite well - such as Stonehenge. However, when I visited York it became clear that there are big gaps in my knowledge of British history - like the War of the Roses. So while I was over there I downloaded British History for Dummies (don't laugh, it's been very informative and entertaining) and also picked up a book at Winsdor Castle with the history of the entire British monarchy going back to the early kings of England/Wessex. Between the two books, I've filled in the gaps pretty well with some basic knowledge. But now I would like to do a "deep dive" into British history and I'm thinking the best way to do that is to read through it chronologically. So I've gone through my TBR - which is quite large - and listed all of the books both fiction and non-fiction that I think would apply to this effort. I'm focusing primarily on the history of England. For now I'm not planning to include Ireland or Scotland, except on the peripherary. I'm not sure about Wales. The "native" Britons were pushed to the west to Wales and Cornwall, so I might include Wales. But I only have one book set in Wales on the list right now that I know about (Hood by Stephen Lawhead). So here's where I need your help - please! I would like the books on this list - both fictional and non-fiction - to be truer to history.. I know we have several people on this board who are knowledgable about this. There are also several gaps in the timeframe that need to be filled with books - so suggestions on those would be great. If you see any gaps that I haven't identified yet, please feel free to suggest books. I have in fact already started on this "Deep Dive into British History". I read Stonehenge by Bernard Cornwell late in 2013. But then I ran straight into several time periods for which I have no books - and don't know which books to get - so that is as far as I have gotten LOL. Luckily I don't really have a timeframe in which I have to complete this challenge. I would maybe like to get 6-10 books read in the challenge this year and know the challenge is going to take multiple years. Oh, and a few more things ... I would very much use as many books from my own TBR for this as much as works. And I would like to "spread the wealth" among various authors. For example, I know that Sharon Kay Penman is considered a very good author of British historical fiction, but don't want to include too many books by her on the list. But if you have a book in mind that you think is better than one I have on the list, go ahead and suggest it and tell me why :-) Thanks in advance for any input!! I'll check in regularly to respond. Lynne ETA: I'm also especially interested in any historical fiction books set in York - other than the Owen Archer series which I am already reading. Before going to York, I tried to find some but kept finding books on the War of the Roses (not necessarily set in York) and New York instead. Last Edited on: 3/10/14 11:33 AM ET - Total times edited: 7 |
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Here's the list so far!
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For WWI I'd recommend Philip Rock's The Passing Bells. There's also Over There by Thomas Fielding (or is it Felding?). |
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For 9th c. Britain, I'd recommend Bernard Cornwell's Uhtred series -- but there are 7 books thus far, so that may not work. For The Wars of the Roses, I would strongly recommend Sharon Kay Penman's The Sunne in Splendour over the Phillipa Gregory books. For Henry VIII and his wives, I'd go with Margaret George's The Autobiography of Henry VIII. For Elizabeth I, I'd go with Susan Kay's Legacy (but I do not know the Buckley mysteries). Quite honestly, for Henry II and Eleanor, as much as I like Franklin's and Penman's mystery series, I would opt for Sharon Kay Penman with The Devil's Brood -- but it really depends on how much history you want in the foreground versus the background. For Roman Britain at the end of the 3rd century, you might try Rosemary Sutcliff's The Silver Branch and/or for 5th c., Sutcliff's The Lantern Bearers. I'd probably add Katherine by Anya Seton -- it covers important 14th c. history and is just a good book.
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I just love this thread and I plan to print this list and all the suggestions for future reference. |
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Thanks for all suggestions and comments so far! I'm going to try to look into them in more depth tomorrow. |
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I agree with Deb about Legacy. I read it last month and loved it! I also really enjoyed Miss Buncle's book. Very cute story. |
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This is a great idea, Lynne. I wonder if you have heard of the site, Historical Novels, which briefly annotates and organizes HF titles by place and time period. It may already have the list you are looking for. That said, I recommend the Manda Scott series on Boudica for the 1st Century Britain. They cover the invasion of the Romans. |
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Oh Lynne, I can't tell you how many times I've contemplated doing this! (And for Ireland too). For now, I'll watch you enjoy this project, but I have a feeling I will jump in and do this too in the next year or so! I second Bernard Cornwell's books about Uhtred--I believe York is the setting, so you NEED to read those! (Well, York at times, let's put it that way.) Rosemary Sutcliff does a wonderful job with Roman Britain, and I'm glad to see Sword at Sunset on your list. Do you want more than one book for each time period? |
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As always, Genie has a brilliant suggestion. The Historical Novels site she recommends is a terrific source for this kind of project. |
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How did I not know that website existed?! Thanks, Genie! |
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Jean Plaidy was an extremely prolific writer who wrote dozens of novels covering pretty much all of English history from the Norman conquest to World War II. I've read all her books and highly recommend them. She also wrote different genres under the names Victoria Holt and Phillipa Carr. (Her real name was Eleanor Hibbert.) |
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Good adds, Tess!
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Strong endorsement of Manda Scott's Boudica quadrilogy for 1st century Brittain! Linda & I started a list a few years ago, using the Royals as the divisions. Unfortunately, we have not done a very good job editing or keeping it updated. So, although imperfect and incomplete, it may be of some value & may spark some other ideas/endorsements from the rest of the group.
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Kelly and Linda, wow! Nice list. I appreciate you sharing it with us! |
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Nice list. For George IV, might I suggest The Glitter and the Gold by Michael Dyne? George III, there's God Save the King by Laura Purcell, which has been picked up by a publisher and coming out again soon as Queen of Bedlam. |
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I could suck up a lot of time adding to this list Pre Conquest, Lord of Sunset by Parke Godwin. Not my favorite, and alternating first person POVs, but worthwhile. I recommend the Anand books highly. Conquest, A Memory of Lions by Parke Godwin. Highly recommend by me, it's on my keepers shelf. I have Juliet Dymoke's Of the Rings of Earls shelved as Norman Conquest. Haven't read it yet. Charles II, Forever Amber?
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I need to visit with Linda - I think we could make some good edits to this list. In the meantime, I will edit to add Cathy's suggestions. It was always our half-developed idea to get this list more fully developed and then made available to anyone who might be interested. The problem, of course, is that such a goal is a moving target ... as we read more and discover more wonderful books pertaining to English history. Kelly |
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A great list, Kelly and Linda. Another one I will print and save. |
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Shoot, I opened a new tab on the Fire and lost my comment. VM, Restoration. Belle's wintercombe nooks, Cromwell to Glrious Revolution. Heron books, Charles I through London Fire. Edited, mixed up my series. Annette Motley's Quickenberry Tree, I think prior to Cromwell, but will have to double check. Du Maurier's The King's General, Cromwell I think. Speaking of DM, Mary Anne, Georgian. Last Edited on: 3/12/14 8:43 PM ET - Total times edited: 1 |
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Sorry to post multiple times, but I'm not losing a comment again. Thread at HFO on Glorious Revolution, http://www.historicalfictiononline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2837 |
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Charles II, Lady on the Coin by Margaret Campbell Barnes. I have this out from the library now. There is also Girl on the Golden Coin (same topic as the Barnes book) by Marci Jefferson. I've heard mixed opinions on this one. Lol, the usual names from the blurb circle are on this one praising it. I'm waiting for library copy. |
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Just popping in quick to thank everyone for their input. I have been unexectedly busy for the past few days and am about to leave for a weekend crafting retreat. When I get back on Sunday I hope to find time to go through everyone's suggestions and edit my list. Lynne |
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Linda & I have been revising our list ... removed a few we wouldn't feel real strongly about recommending and/or haven't read yet. We also added some that we have read and would recommend. :)
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