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Subject: Requester says she'll take book...
Date Posted: 4/22/2011 9:11 PM ET
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I posted this textbook back in October and the requester says she doesn't want it because of writing inside. I re-posted it in December and got her again and same thing happen. In late February early March I got the same request by same requester. I just reposted the book again thinking it was enough time and again got the same person and she's now asking me that she will take the book if I'm willing to erase all the pencil mark that was in the textbook.

Seems like my book is the only one posted and she's the only requester. In a situation like this because there's no other books in the system and no other requesters and it's been going on for a while now, would you say it's worth it to take time going through 300 + pages to find and erase all pencil mark?

Date Posted: 4/22/2011 9:22 PM ET
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"In a situation like this because there's no other books in the system and no other requesters and it's been going on for a while now, would you say it's worth it to take time going through 300 + pages to find and erase all pencil mark?"

Nope!   And the Requestor is silly for not accepting your textbook & doing the erasing herself if she wants the book so badly & there are never any copies posted.

Date Posted: 4/22/2011 9:28 PM ET
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nope, if she wants them erased she can erase them herself.

Date Posted: 4/22/2011 9:37 PM ET
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Nope....  Erasers are cheap.  She can buy one and do the erasing herself. 

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 12:35 AM ET
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At this point I wouldn't take the chance of erasing and sending.  She'd probably rwap it.

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 8:03 AM ET
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Date Posted: 4/23/2011 8:58 AM ET
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I agree, let her do her own erasing! If she wants it so badly, it is a small price to pay.

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 11:28 AM ET
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I would let her do the erasing.....heck send an eraser along!!!
Date Posted: 4/23/2011 12:22 PM ET
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No way in hell would I do that. She can either accept the book with the pencil marks, or turn it down again.

Then again, how badly do you want to be rid of the thing?

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 12:23 PM ET
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I am with the others...let her do the work. It's apparently a book that is rarely posted, and if it's something she wants, let her do the erasing. That sounds like a lot more work than 1 credit is worth!

Cheryl

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 3:10 PM ET
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It is my understanding that marking in textbooks is OK for posting.  If it is not extreme, I would post it and send it to her.  If she marks it RWAP, send that note to her and send a note to the Powers here and they will resolve it.  I would definitely not refund her credit!!

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 3:13 PM ET
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Marking in textbooks is only OK if the receiver agrees to take it as-is. This receiver has said she'll take it if the sender erases all the marks first, which would make sending it as-is not OK.

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 3:17 PM ET
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If she marks it RWAP, send that note to her and send a note to the Powers here and they will resolve it.

I don't think this is something that TPTB gets involved in.

As Lisa says, it's pretty clear in the rules that the sender has to get the okay to ship. If they don't, and send the book anyway, then in a RWAP they should return the credit.

The sender didn't get the okay, so it should be their loss.

 

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 3:38 PM ET
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It is my understanding that marking in textbooks is OK for posting. - Only under the textbook exception which requires an acceptance of the condition of the book before mailing. This member has said she will only take it if the marks are erased so sending without the erased would be a RWAP situation.

If you have the time and want to stop the post-deny game, go ahead and erase it. But, if you are not willing to erase it, you will need to tell her you cannot send it unless she accepts it as is and then cancel if she does not say she will accept it as is. She does not have to take the book in the condition you have it in.



Last Edited on: 4/23/11 3:39 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/23/2011 3:44 PM ET
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Every used college textbook that I ever got had highlighting and markings in them. Even if this person order the book used from Ebay, half.com, Amazon, or an used textbook sight, it would probably have markings in it.

 

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 5:23 PM ET
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Winston C. : I'm not sending the book unless I get an Okay.

Lisa: I don't really care if the book goes now or later. Not in a rush to send books to anyone or receive books from anyone at this point. Was just wondering about this particular one since it's an ongoing thing.

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 6:38 PM ET
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I guess I didn't read all of the rule saying that you had to get an OK before sending college texts with some markings/highlighting, but if that's the rule------I agree that I've never seen a used college text that was unmarked, though---sometimes the markings are more helpful than otherwise.

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 8:19 PM ET
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Winston, you might want to check out the help docs in two places. (some of the underlining is mine.)

The first should be the original Textbook rules...

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  • Exception: if it is a travel guide (not a picture book but a guide, such as Fodor's or Lonely Planet), some writing on text pages could be expected.  All maps must be present and included with the book - if detachable it is OK if they are detached, but they must not be missing.
    • if you post a travel guide that has writing in it, the condition must be described to the requestor in a Personal Message
    • AND the described condition MUST BE AGREED TO in a reply PM before the book is sent
    • This is the one of the ONLY three cases in which a PM exchange about a book is required before the book can be sent (the others are for textbooks/workbooks and cookbooks--see above and below).

 

This second link is newer, where any book can be considered a textbook if the sender considers it as such. I think it originally came about because some classes use fiction, so some people were getting highlighted/underlined fiction they didn't expect. So they decided the definition of a textbook doesn't matter, as long as the receiver agrees to the receipt of teh underlined/highlighted/written book in PM before it's sent.

 

If a member considers her book a textbook she may Post it with underlining/highlighting/writing on text pages, according to the "textbook exception" in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS; BUT since the textbook exception in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS require her to contact the requestor and obtain PM consent to the book's condition, she won't be in the position of sending a "stealth textbook" to someone who doesn't expect to receive one.

Date Posted: 4/23/2011 11:26 PM ET
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I would just send it if it fits the category for textbook and since writing is allowed.  Otherwise I would not erase anything for her.  Sorry.

Date Posted: 4/24/2011 10:23 AM ET
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I'd be really happy not to have to pay the high price of a textbook. If I were you, I wouldn't even bother reposting the book. Since it's the only copy in the system, it will be offered to her since it's on her WL. Either that or offer it in the BB.

Date Posted: 4/24/2011 10:25 PM ET
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I would just send it if it fits the category for textbook and since writing is allowed.  

It is only allowed if the receiver accepts it that way, and this receiver has not accepted it with the writing so she would RWAP it and would be due her credit back. Just sending a book with writing in it without concent is never allowed in PBS rules. Please don't encourage the OP to break the rules of the site.



Last Edited on: 4/24/11 10:27 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/24/2011 10:28 PM ET
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It is beyond unreasonable for this member to ask you to erase the marks.  This is an extreme request and one that you can be sure you will never be able to do to her standards. 

She must have put this on her wait list which is why she keeps coming up at the requestor. 

There are many other forums for posting this textbook that you should not have to deal with this kind of request. 

Good luck. 

Date Posted: 4/24/2011 10:51 PM ET
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Last Edited on: 5/2/11 10:09 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 4/26/2011 8:48 AM ET
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Don't take the time to erase the marks! It's insane that she'd ask you to do that. PM her telling her that she is welcome to do it herself but don't mail the book out unless you get approval from her, otherwise she'll RWAP.

Though at this point, I'd be nervous about sending the book to this member. Perhaps you could go onto the Book Bazar and post that you have a marked up Wish Listed textbook. Maybe someone who hasn't given you this trouble for months will take it.

Date Posted: 4/26/2011 2:00 PM ET
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I deal largely in textbooks of various kinds here. I actually have gone through books with pencil markings and erased them before - then I described the resulting condition in a PM to the requestor. (This is in short books with mostly light pencil markings.) Other times, I've done a trial erasure of the first few pages of the book, and have described the results of that - along with my best guess as to how the rest of the book will erase, and an estimate of how many pages have writing, how much of it is ink, and so forth - in a PM. I've had good responses to this from requestors.

I really appreciate it when the sender PMs in this situation - many, many people don't. They see that there's a "textbook exception," don't read it, and assume sending is fine.