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Subject: is it rude?
Date Posted: 2/9/2011 12:38 PM ET
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I just ordered a book from someone and saw that they have a lot of books. Is it rude to ask for a deal?

I wouldn't be offended myself, but was wondering if people have had bad/rude responses from other members when asking.



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Date Posted: 2/9/2011 12:42 PM ET
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I don't think it's rude if you ask nicely - they can always say no.  Before you PM and ask, you can also check their header and their profile to see if they mention anything about being willing to do a deal - sometimes people put that information there and it's not immediately obvious to people browsing their shelf.  Just a thought.

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 12:45 PM ET
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If they have more books that I would like to get from them, I will ask. Most of the time they will say yes.

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 12:55 PM ET
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The person did not have anything about deals on their page (I looked everywhere) and was assuming it was because they don't want to. Which is fine.

I think I've been reading too many of these forums and am expecting the worst. surprise

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 1:08 PM ET
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Nothing ventured, nothing gained.  All they can say is no.

Go For It!

-RD

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 1:27 PM ET
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This site allows deals and even opened the 'boxer' option.  So I'd say make an offer if you like, the receiver is free to accept or decline.

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 1:27 PM ET
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Date Posted: 2/9/2011 2:01 PM ET
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Stacey...how does PMing and asking about a deal = "begging for a deal."?

In your expressed concept of asking for a deal it would be begging to:

- ask for a day off work!

- ask for a discount on a damaged piece of merchandise

- etc.

that is just too weird!!!

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 2:06 PM ET
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Well first I think 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 is not a very good offer.  When I ask someone for a deal (which is very rare), I ask for something like 3 for 2 or 5 for 3.  I get a freebie or two and they get a postage break.  To me PMing someone and askign for basically 2 free books with a 1 book order is kind of insulting. 

Also don't take it personally if they get offended or say no. The majority of PBSers never come ot hte forums and may not know that deals are allowed and that it's OK to ask people for deals. 

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 2:07 PM ET
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Christy, thank you so much!    I was thinking the same thing.. .

Also, isn't it even ruder to just ignore someone's (polite) PM rather than just saying no?



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Date Posted: 2/9/2011 2:13 PM ET
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Mary L. ,      I agree 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 is not a very good deal. That was just what came off the top of my head.  I'm changing it angel



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Date Posted: 2/9/2011 2:16 PM ET
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When I've asked someone who's not on the forum, they've usually ignored me.  lol.  Oh well.  Like they said:  nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 3:03 PM ET
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I don't have anything on my page about deals either, but if someone makes a reasonable request, I'm generally more than happy to give a deal.  As long as you are polite and go in with the understanding that the person may say no, I say go for it. 

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 4:00 PM ET
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The  PBS rules state that it is OK to ask for a deal. It is also OK to decline to do a deal. Politeness is expected on both sides.

But .... there have been cases of people not being familiar with the site in depth, who receive a PM asking for a deal, and respond rudely usually because they do not know it is allowed, and sometimes because they truley believe that every book is worth a full credit.

I think in general, it is best to ask for a deal that involves more than one credit. (Although, I don't think that a 2/1 deal is a bad offer necessarily, as long as it is for 2 paperbacks that would be likely to mail for the under 1lb media mail rate.) Also, I think it is more polite to request a deal on books that are highly posted, and/or slightly older, rather than asking for a deal on books that are only-copy in the system, etc.

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 4:25 PM ET
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Yup, I've asked for deals..  I'd look at there shelf and see what they have that you would like.  3 for 2 deal would not insult many people, I would not ask for all hardcover books as they can be heavy. I'd also not make it a deal breaker either. Tell them" I will be ordering X book, but noticed you had X, Y and Z. Would you do a 3 for 2 credits deal to save on postage? Thank you for your time. "

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 4:39 PM ET
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I think if you've looked at their bookshelf and profile (if they have one) and don't see anything mentioned that they DON'T do deals, it's fine to ask politely. What bugs me is that I have a header on my bookshelf specifically saying that I DON'T do deals and I still get the occasional PM asking about a deal. no 

There have been instances where people have been offered deals, and since they don't frequent the forums, didn't realize it was "legal" and thought the person was trying to scam them somehow and reported them! So do be careful how your query is worded, too.

Cheryl

 

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 5:55 PM ET
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When I am ordering a book,

#1 I always look at the members shelf for other books I want (yes even that member that had 1500 books which took me a while).

#2 If I am interested in more than 3 books I always ask for a deal.  Of the times I have asked I have only received a no once and the message was composed politely.  Depending upon what I'm wanting I either make a suggestion (I have asked for 5 larger hardbacks and asked only to have 1 credit knocked off aka 5 for 4) or just suggest that I might be interested in more books if I can get them at a discount (especially for the thinner PB's), and let the sender choose what they are willing to do.  Sometimes I am not interested in the all of the books at full credit price anyways.

#3 I always assume that the original book is outside of the trade.  The only time I've been a little put off by these requests myself is when someone ordered a book through FIFO and then suggested a 2 for 1 with only 2 books.  This in no way would have helped me (they already requested the first book and it was going to be sent to them), I did suggest that I'd do 2 for 1 or even 3 for 1 past the first book, they ended up asking for 50 books and I gave them a really good deal based upon shipping weight.

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 8:11 PM ET
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I don't think it's rude to ask - kind of like asking at a yard sale "will you take less?".

the worst that can happen is the response will be "No."!

MaryF

Date Posted: 2/9/2011 8:13 PM ET
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I have asked for deals when I've seen more than one that I'd like , and MOST of the time I've had possitive replys. A few have said no . Sometimes people are not active in the forums so they dont about deals. I just asked someone today. I havent heard back yet....

I would never be offended, but thats me.



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Date Posted: 2/9/2011 8:34 PM ET
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I had somebody ask me for a deal and offer to do the same deal for me.  I looked at her shelf and found a couple books I wanted.  We both got a deal.

Date Posted: 2/11/2011 12:25 AM ET
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I like Mary's suggestion about a 3 for 2 deal or something similar.  That way you get a deal, and the sender gets the benefit of more than one credit and saving on postage by sending multiple books to one household. 

Date Posted: 2/11/2011 5:07 AM ET
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I agree that it is fine to ask for a deal involving more than 1 credit for the person. I love to do these kind of deals.  Most of the cost of postage is in the first credit so unless books are quite heavy I find this a real savings for the sender too.

What I do also when I'm ready to order a book is to look through there shelf before I process the order. If they have several I can use I will save their name and cancel the order. Then I will pm the person wth my offer of a deal,  because some people package very quickly after receiving an order. If I don't hear in a few days I just go ahead and order the book I had planned to order.

 

Date Posted: 2/11/2011 10:47 AM ET
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When I ask for a deal I always offer the same deal in return.

-RD

Date Posted: 2/11/2011 10:58 AM ET
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I frequently ask for deals (never more than a 2/1, though).  I also offer a reciprocal deal when I ask.  I have never had someone respond in a negative manner to my request.

I do think it's rather ballsy to ask for a 4/1 deal with all four books being in a series.  That's getting just plain greedy.  I had a request like that the other day and I ignored it.  Then they asked again!  That one I responded to because it was obvious they weren't going to give up.

Date Posted: 2/11/2011 11:05 AM ET
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If they have several I can use I will save their name and cancel the order.

You don't have to order the book to get the PM for the member.  Just click on the "Order more books from Member" link and then click on the member name (you haven't actually ordered the book at that point).  At that point you will have access to the PM button.  I also do this to get to their regular book shelf (by clicking on the number of books they have on their shelf) because I can sort their regular book shelf by author but can't sort the"order more from member" listing.  I do think it might irritate me a little to get an order for a book, then a cancellation of the order and then a request for a deal. 

 



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