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Subject: Should I send the book
Date Posted: 3/5/2012 12:53 PM ET
Member Since: 7/3/2006
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I have a wishist book. It is a text book and has highligting in it. It has gone through 2 people who had a RC for no highlinghting. Now it is on to a 3rd person. I sent a PM immediatly after it was accepted telling them it had highligting and asking if this was acceptable like I was supposed to. When I accepted the request I chose the latest mailing date available to allow for time for PMs to be exchanged. I have to mark it sent by tomorrow and they still have not answered my PM. Do I send it? If not what do I do.

Kathy

Date Posted: 3/5/2012 1:02 PM ET
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Unfortunately, no, you should not send it anyway. If they don't answer you, you should cancel the book order.

If you post it again right away, you will just end up at the same member, You could try offering the book in the Book Bazaar, to get rid of it right away, or perhaps wait a week or two before reposting it, to see if some copies get posted in the meantime.

Date Posted: 3/5/2012 1:06 PM ET
Member Since: 8/26/2006
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No, don't send it if you don't hear back.  The textbook exception basically allows us to send books with writing if and only if we get written confirmation that the writing is okay.

 

If they don't respond, you cancel (or let the system cancel by not marking it mailed by the deadline) and you can repost.  Sometimes it's a good idea to wait a bit before reposting.

 

Here's the logic:

What is the definition of a textbook?

Actually, the way the system and rules are designed, it does not matter what the "objective definition" of a textbook is.  The club members decide this - as long as the rules in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS are followed.  See the explanation and examples below.

If a member considers her book a textbook she may Post it with underlining/highlighting/writing on text pages, according to the "textbook exception" in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS; BUT since the textbook exception in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS require her to contact the requestor and obtain PM consent to the book's condition, she won't be in the position of sending a "stealth textbook" to someone who doesn't expect to receive one.

Examples/further explanation:

  • Member A posts an Economics 101 textbook - something that most people would clearly consider a textbook.   
  • Following the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS textbook exception rules, she sends a Personal Message to the requestor when she gets a request, describing the book's condition.
  • Chances are good that she will get PM consent from the requestor to send the book with highlighting/etc. 
  • Member B posts a novel (fiction) that she used in a class - something that most people would NOT consider a textbook.
    • Following the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS textbook exception rules, she sends a Personal Message to the requestor when she gets a request, describing the book's condition.
    • Chances are good that she will NOT get PM consent from the requestor to send the book with highlighting/etc.
    • If the requestor declines the book in its condition, Member B will have to cancel the request and repost her book.  It will go to the 'back of the line' for requests.  (If it is a Wish Listed book, it will be offered to the same wisher and the sender will again have to cancel.  She will have to wait for the wishing member to get a copy of this book from someone else before Member B can post her copy again.)

So, the farther the book is from a 'textbook' in common perception, the more likely it will be difficult to get consent to its condition.  Members in Member B's situation may encounter several declines, and will eventually realize that the book is not likely to be acceptable to the club in its condition.  Member B will stop trying to offer it as a "textbook"  and will consider it instead an unpostable/damaged book.

In this way, the club defines "textbook" on a case-by-case basis, and no one who is following the rules will be able to "surprise" another person with a highlighted/written-in/underlined book.



Last Edited on: 3/5/12 1:06 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/5/2012 2:22 PM ET
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Thanks a lot, I guess I will wait until it times out in case the person just hasn't gotten around to answering yet.

 

Date Posted: 3/5/2012 5:19 PM ET
Member Since: 6/5/2007
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For future reference, if this situation comes up again, accept it with the latest mail by date you can.  Then, when you PM the member, give them a deadline (respond by XX date) that is within the timeframe that you have to mail by, so you don' t have this happen again. 

Date Posted: 3/5/2012 6:00 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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They could be in a tornado hit area and cannot respond.