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Subject: would you send to this RC?
Date Posted: 6/30/2016 1:20 PM ET
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i just posted a dear america book to my shelf and it seems that it was on auto request for another member.  i normally check to see if the books i am planning to post are being wished for but this time i forgot. the member wishing for this particular title had this rc.


I am not willing to accept books that have highlighting or writing (in the form of personal notations) in them.  In the case of previous library books, please PM me about any stickers, stamps, etc. so that I might determine if the condition is acceptable. 

Thank you!



would you send to it? i guess i just don't get having wishlist books on auto request and then in your rc requiring people to pm you to see if they are acceptable to you. that defeats the point of auto request which is suppose to make posting wl books faster and simpler.

Last Edited on: 6/30/16 1:31 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 6/30/2016 1:24 PM ET
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Does your book meet the first condition? If so, I'd send it.

If I had a library book, I'd decline that RC as I don't PM about their RCs.

Date Posted: 6/30/2016 1:56 PM ET
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I would send my book, unless it was a former library book. I refuse to PM about a book's condition prior to sending, so if it was a former library book I would decline the RC.

Date Posted: 6/30/2016 5:41 PM ET
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If there was more than 1 person wishing, I would decline it outright.  If they were the only wisher and it was a library book, I'd decline it because I won't send someone a message.  If it had ANY kind of writing in it, I'd decline it.  Otherwise, I'd send it. 

Date Posted: 6/30/2016 6:30 PM ET
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In case you're taking a straw poll, I'd decline if my book is a library book (whether or not there are any other wishers) and send if it isn't. If there are a bunch of people wishing for it, you could offer it in the book bazaar too. (That way, avoiding the first person in line and having to deal with the "PM Me" thing.) Good luck! I wish it was for me (but I do NOT have that RC) as I don't mind library books at all. :-)

ETA: Erghy, I just reread. I don't like the "so I might determine if the condition is acceptable." To me, PBS determines what condition is acceptable here. It's not a one-on-one basis. That type of hoity-toity (allowing, though, that reading something typed may be misconstrued from its actual intention) bothers me.

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Date Posted: 6/30/2016 7:44 PM ET
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If I remember correctly, there is no way to PM someone without first accepting the request. The following is copied and pasted directly from the Help Docs under Requester Conditions:

Your Requestor Conditions should NOT ask the sender to "PM me if you are unsure"  or "contact me to discuss".

  • There is no mechanism for the sender to PM the requestor from a request without accepting it.

So you CAN'T PM this person to inform them about any stickers or stamps on former library books. You would have to take the chance of accepting the request in order to contact them. A lot of people writing these requester conditions do NOT realize this.


Date Posted: 6/30/2016 7:55 PM ET
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thanks for all the great advice. and i welcome opinions on this subject. i was thinking the rc's were too subjective to not possibly result in a problem swap. the book is not an ex-library book. it is in awesome shape. but some of the page corners were bent over to keep the previous readers place instead of a bookmark i guess and that rc makes me a little nervous as to whether or not they will mark it a problem because of a few page creases. i don't know if i want to take that chance. the book is a hardcover so there are no creases in that regard. but to me asking me to pm you so you can decide what is acceptable to me seems to picky.

Date Posted: 6/30/2016 8:04 PM ET
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The RC wording is familiar and I think I had a request from the same member or someone similar.  In my case, the book was ex-library.  I accepted the request and sent a PM with a lot of details about the condition.  That person was quick to message me back. They decided they wanted the book.  I sent it, they loved it = no problems.

Based on the other responses here and on several other threads, I realize I'm in the minority.  But, I don't usually have a problem accepting and then messaging the requestor about the condition if that's what they want.

Date Posted: 6/30/2016 8:13 PM ET
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She wasn't mentioning dog ears and it was library books she wanted to know about..not every book. That's because some of the library books have lots of stamps, the word discard stamped on pages, etc

Date Posted: 6/30/2016 8:32 PM ET
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If your book meets her RC, I'd send it. Her RC says nothing about dog ears, which are acceptable per PBS posting guidelines. If someone RWAPs, that RWAP would have to be about violations of the RC. I know some members feel that if they have an RC that they can RWAP about anything...but I personally will not return a credit if someone asks for a book with no writing, gets a book with no writing but RWAPs about dogears...

Date Posted: 7/2/2016 6:14 AM ET
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People with RCs know how to write what they don't want in a book. The RC doesn't mention anything except writing or highlighting on regular books, which is not subjective at all.

I would absolutely send to that RC. And I would do the PM thing as well if my book was ex- library because it does not bother me in the least to try to make another member happy.

Date Posted: 7/2/2016 11:44 AM ET
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All those RCs are Objective:  highlighting- yes or no?      personal notations-- yes or no?  library book: yes or no, if yes further action required.

Date Posted: 7/2/2016 12:46 PM ET
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I'd send it. Meets PBS guidelines + meets RCs = go!

Date Posted: 7/2/2016 1:13 PM ET
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From The OP:  

would you send to it? i guess i just don't get having wishlist books on auto request and then in your rc requiring people to pm you to see if they are acceptable to you. that defeats the point of auto request which is suppose to make posting wl books faster and simpler.

The sister DVD and CD sites have streamlined the Auto-Request feature.  It's exactly like it reads.  If you have enough credits and Swapmoney and set to Auto-Request the receiver does not have to doanything except mark received when is arrives in the mail.  The Book site is the only one of the three sister sites that has the Requestor Condition feature.  

1. Wl Title gets posted 

2.  Sender waits for them to accept, up to 48 hrs for or its on Auto-Request

3.  After receiver accepts the sender THEN gets to see if there is a Requestor Condition.  

It would be more efficient to show the RC right up front.  

I have learned from reading posts that even though they want a wl book  some people still want a higher level than postable or don't want a book that smells. I myself do not want a book that smells like tobacco smoke or musty mildew.    Some will say smells are subjective but they really are not.  Do you think poop and vomit stink?  Can you smell gasoline, coffee, vanilla extract, bacon cooking, cinnamon rolls baking?  If you cannot smell these things then yes you have a decreased sense of smell.  

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Date Posted: 7/2/2016 11:03 PM ET
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Just say no and move on. It is a wish list book so you will just send to the next, hopefully not probematic person.

Mary Anne

Date Posted: 7/3/2016 2:33 AM ET
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If the book was not a former library book and it did not have any writing or highlighting in it, I would probably send it on.  I have an RC and so I try to be a little more giving when a book of mine is requested and has an RC.  As far as subjective RCs, say "book must be in good condition" I will not accept at all.  Too vague and my idea of good condition and their idea will likely not be the same.  

Date Posted: 7/3/2016 10:40 AM ET
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Last Edited on: 7/3/16 11:23 AM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 7/3/2016 11:55 PM ET
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I will send to most RC's without question.  However, if someone specifies conditions on a library book, I decline; mainly because library books are what they are:  they WILL have markings, stickers, stamps.  Some of the stamps may also read "discard" on the top or bottom of the book (across the pages).  I won't bother sending a PM so they can decide if it's in 'acceptable' condition, mainly because they could tell you to send it, and then when it's received, they will probably find something they didn't like and mark it RWAP.  Too questionable.

Date Posted: 7/5/2016 1:39 PM ET
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Sounded like a perfectly reasonable RC to me.

Very objective. 



Date Posted: 8/12/2016 7:57 PM ET
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I think you ask this question every week.   Does it meet R'C s ' or not ?