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Subject: Sending unpostable
Date Posted: 6/25/2010 5:53 PM ET
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Someone wants one of my unpostables for a credit.  I've told all about it.  She's agreed to it.  My problem is that I've read the rules about it on the BB and it's confused me.  What I read it means to me that PBS doesn't want me to post it to their WL even though it's already there because PBS doesn't want it going through the system.  This is a book I bought so it isn't in the system now.  Have I got this right?  It would be so easy just to post it to her WL.  But I don't want to do anything against the rules. 

Ruth

Date Posted: 6/25/2010 6:04 PM ET
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I would just post it to her WL.  Keep the PMS about it beign unpostable. It's what I've done when I've offered an unpostable WL book for a credit.  They just dont' want you posting the book and then PMing to ask if it's OK that's it's damaged.

Date Posted: 6/25/2010 6:14 PM ET
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Thank you, Mary.  I hope that that's what they mean because I haven't done that.  But I went to that unpostable for credit thread and this is what I'm talking about:

"Just a reminder that unpostable books cannot be posted to Wish Lists per the PBS Team. Swapping unofficially means the "Post this Book" should 'never be clicked in any way.' It should be done with buddying credits and PM's for addresses."

 

So this is the "wish" PBS has that I'm talking about. 

Ruth


Date Posted: 6/25/2010 6:21 PM ET
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You should NEVER post an UNpostable book.  If she wants the book, she can send you a credit and her address and you can send her the book.  That way the swap is between the two of you and does not involve PBS.

Date Posted: 6/25/2010 6:22 PM ET
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Actually PBS has recently told the TGs that they do not want unpostables posted into the system - that you should not hit the post this book button unless you can say yes to the Golden Rule. They would rather the exchange of credit and address be done via PMs and the Buddy Credit button.

 

eta: this is contrary to a response to feedback received a while back, so if it seems like you've gotten contradictory information on the boards, you might have ;-) Feedback from the Team in the past had said that it was OK as long as both parties agreed to it.



Last Edited on: 6/27/10 3:34 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 6/25/2010 6:25 PM ET
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Okay.  That's what I thought.  But hope springs eternal.  ;D  At least I know this member from the forums so I feel good about doing it without using "post this...". 

Thanks so much.

Ruth

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Date Posted: 6/25/2010 8:27 PM ET
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I'm just curious, why the change in directive?  It makes sense, not posting things that are unpostable, but is there any particular reason they allowed it in the past and no longer do so?

Date Posted: 6/25/2010 9:37 PM ET
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I don't get it. Why do they care if it goes through PBS or not?

I would probably just do it anyway. It seems like one of those rules that can be interpreted in several ways and without any repercussions, why not? It won't hurt anything and both parties know it's not to be posted via FIFO.

Date Posted: 6/25/2010 9:54 PM ET
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I don't really know what prompted the change or if it wasn't a change, but a correction of incorrect opinion of a PBS Team member before. All I know is Amanda the Bazaar Czar was discusing it with them on an issue and the final answer was a very adamant - no, unpostable books (including ARCs) should not be traded via the [Post This Book] button no matter what the agreement is.

So even though some might not agree to that stance (I personally don't), it shouldn't be encouraged in the forums to do something that is contrary to the way the Team has said they wanted something handled. If too many members ignore their directive and it becomes a problem, we may just lose the ability to ask for credits for unpostable books completely.



Last Edited on: 6/27/10 3:34 PM ET - Total times edited: 3
Date Posted: 6/25/2010 10:11 PM ET
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I'm guessing that they prefer it do be done through transfers because if it were posted through the system, a person *could* still mark an item RWAP even if there was a prior conversation. 

For example, was expecting it to be unpostable for highlighting issues but also arrived water damaged or even damaged by USPS.

While PBS doesn't intervene in disputes, they do keep a record of problem transactions and I can see how this would affect those numbers.



Last Edited on: 6/25/10 10:12 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/27/2010 2:27 PM ET
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Melanie is right that it was not a CHANGE but a CLARIFICATION of a misconception that people had twisted the rule bending to include posting the unpostables, which is NOT allowed, and as stated, can cause more problems than it is worth. PBS allowed the rule bending, but does not want it going thru the system, since people forget that they asked for the unpostable copy (I've had it happen) and then they mark it RWAP and it wasn't supposed to be. As Melissa said, if the book is not posted thru the system there cannot be any accidental markings or forgetting to the the transaction and it always stays an unpostable that never went thru the system.