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Subject: Treat this as an ARC or unpostable or post it regular way?
Date Posted: 2/19/2011 1:54 PM ET
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I got a book today at a used book store.  When I went to post it, I noticed that on the back it says Not for Resale. It is a Teacher's Edition, and it includes a study guide in the back of the book.   It does have an ISBN.  The title is The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis.   The ISBN is 978-0-06-447260-9.   How should I treat this book?  An ARC? An unpostable? Or, regular since it does have an ISBN?  It is the Not For Resale part that I'm worried about.  Opinions, please. Terry



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Date Posted: 2/19/2011 1:55 PM ET
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I'm not sure what you're asking about but an ARC is an unpostable.

ETA: my response looks a little silly now.  When I posted the OP had only the subject line blush



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Date Posted: 2/19/2011 2:02 PM ET
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Ok, then, should I treat it as unpostable or postable because of the Not for Resale part?   T



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Date Posted: 2/19/2011 2:04 PM ET
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A teachers edition is not the same as an ARC (advanced readers copy).  I'm not sure about the "not for resale" part, if it would be unpostable or not.  If it weren't for that I would say it's totally fine, but I have no idea if that matters so I'll let someone else respond to that.  Sorry I couldn't help

Date Posted: 2/19/2011 2:27 PM ET
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I am thinking that not for resale becuase possibly, it came as a set.  What I would do is try to enter it into the system using the ISBN and see what it says. If it shows the info for your book you are good to go. Or you could ask your PBS guide, they are so helpful and don't mind answering questions.

Date Posted: 2/19/2011 2:33 PM ET
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I'm thinking that it is okay.  This is based on the fact that SwapaCD lets folks post promo copies of CDs.

From SwapaCD help:

Promo CDs are now swappable A recent Federal District Court decision has determined that promotional CDs are covered by the first-sale doctrine. This basically means that once the record companies give promos away, the new owners have the right to transfer (i.e., swap, give or sell) them without permission from the record companies.

Rules for posting a promotional CD are exactly the same as for posting regular CDs. If the promo has an UPC code (it probably doesn't), list it by UPC. Otherwise, you may post them by locating the exact Title, Artist, and Track Listing in our database and posting from that page.

  • If the track listing differs, even by one song, you cannot post the CD
  • Do not report promotional discs as wrong or damaged
  • Burned promos are NOT allowed, regardless of the source
  • The artwork for a Promo release is often not complete or different from the artwork for the "official" release. Please post your promo discs as "Disc Only" unless you are positive that the artwork is the same as the "official" release. If you are requesting a CD with both inserts required and you receive a Promo with insufficient artwork, you may mark it 'recieved with a problem' and then indicate that the required inserts were missing.

Just like with regular CDs, it is still illegal to make or keep copies (on a blank CD, an iPod®, your computer, etc.) if you will no longer have the original CD. SwapaCD strictly adheres to copyright laws and all members are bound to do so not only by the site's Terms of Use, but also by the law. We certainly don't want to take money out of the pockets of artists that bring us so much listening pleasure.

Subject: Not for Resale
Date Posted: 2/19/2011 3:20 PM ET
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Books that are stamped Not for Resale are often, but perhaps not always, ones that were donated new to schools and other nonprofit institutions by the publisher.
Date Posted: 2/19/2011 3:46 PM ET
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Now I am feeling silly. If I had checked the ISBN in the system before posting here, I would have found my answer.  It is indeed posted in the system.  Thanks everyone. Terry

Date Posted: 2/19/2011 4:32 PM ET
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Just because something is posted in the system does not mean that it is an okay thing.  Many items are posted in the system that are not allowed.

Date Posted: 2/19/2011 5:37 PM ET
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Yes, there are MANY things posted into the system that are not supposed to be so that should never be a determining factor on whether something is postable.

But, in this case I think your book is OK to post. It is a final version of a book - which is what makes ARCs not postable since they are not. There are some complimentary books marked as not for resale, but perfectly postable to PBS.

Date Posted: 2/20/2011 12:57 AM ET
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I agree with Melanie.  If it's not an ARC (unpostabale per PBS) then the Not for Resale portion only pertains to the original owner, or if you have a written agreement with the publisher.  Otherwise, it does not apply to you.

Date Posted: 2/20/2011 1:44 AM ET
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My two cents....

I work at a major chain bookstore (which recently declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy but my store is still open, thank goodness) and at our last Educator Appreciation Week we gave away many copies of children's books to teachers in goody bags and one of those books was the teacher's edition of LW & W. I expect they were marked "not for resale" to distinguish them from the same book that might have been for sale in the store. I don't know why it wouldn't be postable.

PS The books were in goody bags, not the teachers.



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