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Subject: Update: I received a "Not for Resale" Audiobook
Date Posted: 7/27/2011 5:15 PM ET
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Today I received an audiobook with "Not for Resale" stamped on both the outer box and on each of the CDs in the set.  There's no ISBN or UPC on the cardboard box, which otherwise looks like the retail set.  Should this be treated as an ARC (actually ALC--advanced listener copy)?  How do I report this and what should I say to the sender?  I planned on listening to the book and then reposting it, but if I follow PBS rules, I won't be able to.

Update below.

Last Edited on: 7/28/11 6:27 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 7/27/2011 5:33 PM ET
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When it is a book with "Not for Resale" it is postable as long as it is the complete, published version -- NOT an ARC. I would think that it would be the same for an audiobook -- it should be perfectly postable. Often books/audiobooks are given away at book fairs, etc. So I say you have no problem whatsoever.

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Date Posted: 7/27/2011 6:00 PM ET
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If it doesn't have an ISBN, you might want to check the listing that was used and make sure the sender didn't post it as if it did have one. If she did, you can still repost it, but you would need to make sure to use the Post a Book Without an ISBN page instead of reposting from your TBR.

Date Posted: 7/27/2011 6:37 PM ET
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Interesting, I've never seen an audio marked as not for resale. If it is just promotional, then it is perfectly postable. If they posted it as if it had an ISBN and it does not then you would mark it RWAP - wrong book. If they had it posted as a book without and ISBN and it is listed by one of PBS's short 5 or 6 digit numbers, then it was posted correctly and you would mark it received normally.

The only time it is considered and ARC is when there is wording indicating it is an advanced or unedited copy and not the finished work.

Date Posted: 7/27/2011 6:56 PM ET
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Do they even have ARC cd's? Usually there is a gap between the published book and an audio version.

Date Posted: 7/27/2011 9:07 PM ET
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What they all said   yes  If you can discern the reason for "not for resale" ... ARC's of course are not postable, but promotional editions are postable.  And do check the ISBN the CD arrived under.

ETA - I've also never seen a promotional CD, do let us know!

Last Edited on: 7/27/11 9:08 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 7/27/2011 9:27 PM ET
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Hmm. . .  I wonder if that's what I have.

I took a road trip last weekend and took a used audio cassette book along.  The box said 4 cassettes, 6 hours and change, and I had 4 cassettes.  At the beginning of side B, cassette 4, I was thinking that they had better start wrapping the story up, as time was running out for the Lawyer, the Priest, The Bishop and yes, the Chinese.  Sure enough, I get to the end of tape 4 and it says "This novel is continued on tape 5." 

So. . .very. . .frustrating.  And the book's not even listed on PBS, except for an audio cassette version, but I'm not going down that road again. Now I'm patiently waiting for the paperback from Amazon.   

I'll check the box when I get home from work, but I wonder if I have some sort of Not for Resale version or AR(L)C?  Have you listened to it yet?  Do your CD's contain the whole story?




Date Posted: 7/28/2011 12:06 AM ET
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I see CDs like that in used cd stores all the time. They're just stamped that to try and stop people from selling them, so I guess it's ethically dubious, but I think postable.

Date Posted: 7/28/2011 6:25 AM ET
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I studied the box intently once more, and finally found the ISBN-10 in tiny (5-pt) letters.  It is the same ISBN that the set was listed under.  I think Willa must be right--it's merely an attempt by the publishers to stifle the resell market.  But since it is the original set, there's nothing illegal about reselling it or trading it, I would imagine.  I'd just never seen this on an audiobook, and I have dozens of them.

I looked at a DVD I got as a promo, and it says "Not for Sale--Promo," whereas the audiobook says "Not for Resale."  Very sublte difference between sale and resale.  Resale would imply that it had been sold at some previous time.

The audiobook appears to be complete.  I haven't started listening to it yet, but the box says "5 CDs" and there are 5 CDs in the box.




Date Posted: 7/28/2011 9:38 AM ET
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It doesn't make sense to record an audiobook version of a book that's not final (what would be the point?) so odds are that's the audio of a published book.

Date Posted: 7/28/2011 12:06 PM ET
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Usually, those items marked "not for resale" have been gifted to (book) licensed reviewers and retail outlets to generate interest before the release date.  Since many of the recipients are in a position to 'sell' the item, the publisher marks those editions "not for resale" and they are probably handled differently for tax purposes (advertising expense vs. potential income). 

I've been told "not for resale" is not binding unless you have a written agreement with the publisher (such as large retailers & official reviewers).   Obviously, if B&N receives 20 promotional copies the publisher wants to see them in the hands of reviewers and staff, not on the sale shelf next week.

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Date Posted: 7/28/2011 3:55 PM ET
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We have gotten them at the library sent BY the vendor.. I've mostly seen that printed on library edition copies. When MP3 editions came out we got many not for resale promotions.  Like now if we buy CD audio we get an Mp3 audio free and that mp3 has not for resale on it. :)