Is this a new genre now? It is what's listed on the spine of Angel's Blood by Nalini Singh

Isn't that what Patricia Briggs books are too?  What's the difference between that and paranormal romance?  I want to say that at the end of the book in urban, 'a' couple isn't together.  In paranormal, they are.  Does that make sense?

There was a thread here not too long ago about how to define urban fantasy that I found quite helpful at the time although I have to admit that now I forget what the distinctions were.  It's funny, because it wasn't really until I joined PBS that I started talking about paranormals, I have always lumped them all together under sci-fi and fantasy.  Although I think the paranormal distinction is helpful, I also think it's possible to get a little too defined....

ETA: if it works, here's the link to that thread: http://www.paperbackswap.com/forum/topic.php?t=152642&l=25&ls=0#p3086995

Which makes me think if the distinction between UF and paranormal romance is character driven versus romance/plot driven, there's not really much difference between the two?

I went to Amazon and typed in "urban fantasy romance" and here are some of the books that came up:

Bite the Bullet (Crimson Moon, Book 2) by L. A. Banks 

Witch Fire (Elemental Witches, Book 1) by Anya Bast

Halfway to the Grave (Night Huntress, Book 1) by Jeaniene Frost

Touch of Darkness (Thrall, Book 3) by C. T. Adams and Cathy Clamp

Storm Born (Dark Swan, Book 1) by Richelle Mead

Unclean Spirits: Book One of the Black Sun's Daughter by M.L.N. Hanover

Embrace the Night (Cassandra Palmer Series, Book 3) by Karen Chance

Urban Shaman (The Walker Papers, Book 1) by C.E. Murphy

I haven' t read any of these although I have several in my TBR pile.  I know many of you have read many of these so what is your opinion?

No it's not urban fantasy, it's urban fantasy romance....two different things.

Some of those on that list are not romance, and they aren't listed as urban fantasy romance on the actual book

What I am wondering is why is it now urban fantasy romance instead of just paranormal romance. Urban Fantasy use to be different because of the lack of romance, in general. Now its got it's own sub genre with romance?

It is getting crazy with all these sub genres

Though the more I think about it, I can see why it is labeled this way. The series is going to stick with the same main characters, and the story is in no way over with this book. There are things left unanswered about the characters, and the start of something else happens at the end of the book.

I agree w/ Ashely.  I would not call the CE Murphy, Karen Chance or the Dark Swan series UF romance but just plan old UF or maybe just paranormal.  None of the ones I just mentioned are driven by relationships, with the slight exception of the DArk Swan series where relationships seem to have a larger roll...but I still don't think it is what drives the story.  The Jeanine Frost books I can see as being label as UF romance, you could probably also add in Kelly Armstrong.  But Anya Bast?  No way!  Paranormal Romance all the way.  But I've also seen people list books as just paranormal....is UF  romance  just  another way of saying paranormal romance?  Personally I just think it a way to further confuse us all!!

so a question for those who've read it .  i just bought Angels' Blood and now i don't know where to shelve it.  does it go in sf&f (which is where urban fantasy goes), or does it go in romance?  if there's some romance, but that isn't the main focus, then i'll just put it with the rest of my UF.