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Topic: Using the Book Bazaar - Some ideas of how it should go

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Subject: Using the Book Bazaar - Some ideas of how it should go
Date Posted: 4/29/2008 6:36 PM ET
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As I posted in another thread. R/T Has really taken up most of my time lately. It was a fluke that I even found out about stuff going on here. I really am not sure what is going on for sure.  I hope in about 3 more weeks, I ill have time to actually be around more.

I would HATE to see folks not using the BB. Hate folks to be rude. When Richard  and Robert gave us this forum, it was a good thing. A great way to get rid of books that we couldn't trade for credits and so on.

If you have any questions about this post, see the 2nd post from the top. Robert had put a list of rules there. So if you don't like what I'm saying, or feel its wrong, go read the post about book bazaar rules. You will find I'm not making this stuff up. *lol*

1)Please DO NOT post multiple deals in one day. Its not far to bump down everyone else posts, so you can put up multiple posts saying the same thing. Its not in the spirit of the site. If you are offering a 2 for 1 on only a couple genre's, one thread can take care of that.

2)You can only "bump" once a day! Again, its not fair to keep your post at the top. It really annoys the folks who look for deals in here. Do not put "bump" or whatever, several times a day. Thats a no no.

3)Don't be Rude! If someone has taken the time to politely share a rule of the bazaar, no need to be rude. Be thankful that someone took the time to tell you. For a while folks would pay attention to who did a million bumps  day and just avoided all their deals.. Not saying its happening or right or a milltion other things. Just sharing.

4) What kind of shelf do you have? People like to know that you are offering. IE: 2 for 1 on Non-ficition. Folks who don't like non ficition don't have to wade thru  your shelf. Folks who love it will flock to you! :) Thats just an example.

5)When responding to a deal, be sure you are in the right shelf! IF you click a book to see what its about and order from  that page, it may not be going to the deal offerer. So be sure to go back and make sure you are wher eyou want to be. No hard feelings or having to cancel an order.

Most of all have fun. Be polite! We don't all have to hold hands and sing kumbya, but courtsety goes along way.

Hope to be back sooner than 3 weeks, but if not, this should get everyone started talking.

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 6:42 PM ET
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Thanks for the post, Bernie!   I used to enjoy looking through the BB, but just like many others, I no longer look around here because of the multiple postings/bumps & other problems.   Maybe it will become more orderly again in the future & be easier to look through again.  Thanks for pointing out the rules!

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 6:46 PM ET
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Yes, the Bazaar Czar checks in!!

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 7:12 PM ET
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Thanks Bernie for posting this! Would you also clarify whether "thank you" posts are considered bumps? Although it's the polite thing to do, I believe this can be done via PM to the requestor rather than unfairly bumping the thread more than once a day each time someone orders books from your shelf.

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 8:45 PM ET
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Thank you so much!  I really appreciate you stepping in.

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 8:47 PM ET
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Very well written and easy to understand.  Hope to see you back soon :)

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 9:27 PM ET
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May seem crazy . . . but I started writing "bump April 23" so folks would know I was just bumping one time per day.  I'm fairly new, but in reviewing the bazaar, I have noticed lots of bumps on the same day . . . hopefully your original (and well-written) post will clarify this and other concerns for everyone.  :)

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 9:36 PM ET
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Paula, your posts have a time/date stamp on them, so people can see when you posted it. No one can post multiple times and claim they aren't, because the date and time is right there on the post. It's no problem posting your date as such, but it's ok if you forget to do so. If you are following the rules, you aren't doing it enough to be noticed, you don't have to really worry about it :)    I'm sure you are doing just fine, Paula, I've not seen too much of you to notice ;)

Thanks for taking time to post, Bernie, we've missed you, girl! Get out the whip and take control in here! hahahahaha

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 10:26 PM ET
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There have been a few dust-ups regarding the bumps created by thank-yous.  One camp felt it could be overused when the dealer has many requests during the day and responds to every one.  Others were grateful that their offers were acknowledged by thank-yous and that it was a barometer of what books had been taken and what were left to choose from. 

 A good compromise seemed to be that after several offers had been accepted, the dealer responded to multiple offers in one reply.  Certainly it is not necessary to thank a responder for the offer and follow that up later the same day with a message that the book was being sent.

An alternative way would be with a PM as Leticia suggested.  I guess your point of view could be determined by whether you had a thread that you were hoping would stay on the front page or if you were a shopper!



Date Posted: 4/29/2008 10:39 PM ET
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Thanks for posting this Bernie (and welcome back!)


Date Posted: 4/29/2008 10:42 PM ET
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Thanks Bernie. Love the book bazaar, but things were getting a little arduous there for a while. Clarification is always welcomed.

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 11:21 PM ET
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Welcome back Bernie. Thanks for the post.

Date Posted: 4/30/2008 1:00 AM ET
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Welcome back Bernie.

Cindy, I could be mistaken, but I don't think anyone had an issue with the person who was offering the deal responding to a poster in their deal thread. I think the main source of aggravation was seeing the same person posting 'look at my shelf' several times a day. There was once that I saw this person had only one book, 1 book for 1 credit, she posted it a few times that day. But anyway, it's the multiple threads a day hawking the same shelf that I think most people were getting frustrated with. I know I was.  

L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 4/30/2008 4:56 AM ET
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Date Posted: 4/30/2008 8:39 AM ET
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I personally like the "Thanks, my shelf has been updated" posts because then I know (esp. if it's a huge post and/or huge shelf) that I don't have to go through and read what everyone else ordered in order to be polite and not duplicate anything.  That post lets me know, OK....I can just go to the poster's shelf and look without reading the thread to see what everyone else has ordered, but might still be on the shelf.

Date Posted: 4/30/2008 9:06 AM ET
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I think the "thanks, my shelf has been updated" can be put in the OP, rather than in a separate bump.  Date stamp it--"Updated 3:40EST on the 28th.  Thanks!"  Then it's clear you are keeping up with the requests, but also no bumping!

Thanks for the post Bernie, hope to see you back soon!

Date Posted: 4/30/2008 9:41 AM ET
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I'm eager to hear what the consensus is on the "Thanks for your order.  I have pulled your books and my bookshelf is now updated." postings.   I'm just about to start my annual month long 2/1 sale - my ONLY sale of the year. 

I am a somewhat frequent shopper in the Book Bazaar, and personally I find it very helpful when the person who offers the deal comes back to acknowledge in the thread that they have updated their shelf and pulled all of the freebies.   And I beg to differ with Kayote's suggestion of doing this by making an edit in the original post.  Yes, a person could do this, but as a shopper I would have to compare the time stamp of the edits with the time stamps of the orders to ensure that all were covered and all books have been pulled.  That's too much work.   It's much more clear if the person making the offer creates a new post at the end of the thread.

Date Posted: 4/30/2008 10:33 AM ET
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I'm with Lynne.  When the OP posts to say "updated", I know exactly where that shelf stands!

Date Posted: 4/30/2008 10:35 AM ET
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I agree with Lynne. I like when the member says their bookshelf is updated or I'm reluctant to order when I see other members have ordered already, not knowing if the books I would like are still available.

Date Posted: 4/30/2008 10:53 AM ET
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How about the ability to delete a post?  I'm not saying for anyone to delete any post, just your own.  That way we could delete any post that either is somehow duplicated or has been classified as "over"?  If not deleted, then maybe classified as "in-active" or "done" and then they could be stored in a different listing of some sort.

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Date Posted: 4/30/2008 3:31 PM ET
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I wish we could delete posts when the deal is done!  To whom does one suggest that?  You guys are great, and PBS is the best swapping site online!



Date Posted: 4/30/2008 5:11 PM ET
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No need to delete a post. As fast as things go in the Bazaar your post will be buried in no time if you quit posting to it. I highly doubt people will dig through pages and pages of offers just to bring a completed deal back to the top.

Date Posted: 4/30/2008 5:27 PM ET
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No need to delete a post.

I absolutely love that some members are going back and editing the subject lines with "done" or taken or dead or over when their deal is through....thanks to all of you who do that!!!

Date Posted: 5/1/2008 9:52 AM ET
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great thread

Date Posted: 5/1/2008 11:24 PM ET
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Thanks for the post Bernie.