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Subject: Veil Of Lies Discussion Chapter 11-20
Date Posted: 5/31/2011 11:23 PM ET
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Date Posted: 6/4/2011 9:53 AM ET
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Love, love, love the Duchess of Lancaster! ... Kelly P

 

Date Posted: 6/4/2011 10:44 AM ET
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I wonder if Jeri will have anything about Kathryn Swynford in future books?  Chaucer is on the new one due out in October, and it takes place at least at first in Canterbury.  I read the first Chapter of Troubled Bones on her website.  http://www.getting-medieval.com/ also you might find Crispin own blog interesting http://www.crispinguest.com/.  I wonder when she finds the time to sleep?

I want to like Phillipa but she is definitely hiding something.  Who do you think the Saracen really is?

 

Date Posted: 6/4/2011 7:38 PM ET
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Okay, this section has been much more fun for me.  We are further into the story, there is some sly humorous dialogue popping up, and the mysteries are deepening.  

I have one puzzle:  SPOILER ALERT!!!

 

Crispin admits to Phillipa that he might love her, which leads her to believe the Mandyllon is in his room.  He takes it out, determined to find a hiding place.  As he walks, he thinks about testing the cloth by seeing if he can tell a lie while it's in his possesion.  He comes up to a butcher, and in their conversation, the butcher tells him his meat has a good bit of gristle, but he hopes to get full price anyway.  Crispin asks the butcher if he meant to say that...Remember this scene?

Crispin then moves on, hides the cloth, and never does his test!  Why not?  Why didn't he try to lie to the butcher, or anyone else for that matter?  That development (the non-test) jarred a bit for me.

But on the whole, it's a minor point, and I'm not even really fussing to be honest.  (No pun intended)

Date Posted: 6/4/2011 7:42 PM ET
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Good point Vicky.  This might have to go in the Ask Jeri thread. 

Date Posted: 6/4/2011 11:12 PM ET
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The believable characters are great, but I'm also enjoying the author's prose, not too fancy and fussy, a nice read!

Date Posted: 6/5/2011 12:50 AM ET
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Good question. I thought that the conversation with the butcher unnerved him enough that he was became reluctant to perform the test because he feared the result now. Didn't want to know.
Date Posted: 6/5/2011 3:20 AM ET
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Started this yesterday and had been meaning to comment but kept wanting to read more. I'm really liking the book so far, great characters and a really interesting mystery. I agree with Letty, I want to like Philippa but there's just something about her I don't trust.
Date Posted: 6/5/2011 9:20 AM ET
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I agree with Sharla ... after the butcher admitted that his meat had gristle in it; but that he would still try to get the maximum price for it, the test was basically accomplished even though it wasn't Crispin who tried to lie. To have a vendor tell the truth about his product was certainly evidence enough of the Mandyllon's special properties.  ... kelly p