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Subject: Victoria Laurie
Date Posted: 9/9/2008 7:49 AM ET
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I just started reading her newest Psycic Eye mystery book and have it posted on my blog. Someone posted that they had several of her books on their WL until they heard a story about her.  The link is below. Has anyone heard about this??  What are your thoughts?




Date Posted: 9/9/2008 8:58 AM ET
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There were too many links to follow to get to the real story (because posts were deleted and all that) so I didn't get into it or find out what 'really' happened. I tend to avoid the high drama crap, and don't get real involved with what an author is like behind the scenes anyway...if I enjoy their books, I read them. If not, I don't. Doesn't matter to me whether as a person, they're naughty, nice or (like most of us) somewhere in-between.

That said, I only read one and a half of Victoria Laurie's psychic eye series--they are way too chick-litty for me and I just didn't care for them much.


Date Posted: 9/9/2008 9:02 AM ET
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Here's the cached version of VL's post

There are two types of professionals you should never intentionally pick a fight with:

1. Your Waitperson

2. An Author

You should never piss off your waitperson for the obvious reason that by doing so you are almost guaranteeing yourself a loogey in your mashed potatoes.

And you should never pick a fight with an author….well….because, honey, we know how to get even.  ;)

Last year when I was in the middle of penning the upcoming Death Perception a testimonial appeared in my inbox from a “fan” who absolutely detested the M.J. Holliday book, What’s A Ghoul To Do? 

The word “stupid” was used at least ten times to describe Steven, Gilley, M.J. and me for even thinking I could attempt another mystery series.  She went on, and on, and on about how she had essentially wasted her money by buying the book and I of course was completely to blame.  How dare I?

The woman then ended the testimonial by signing her name and attempting to post her thoughts to my website’s book testimonial page!  (Note - it’s extra bad when it’s targeted directly to you!)  And this, my friends…wasn’t even her biggest mistake.

No, for that I will point you to the fact that within this diatribe of nastiness she mentioned that, although she hated M.J., she was actually a big fan of the Abby Cooper series, along with all her friends and a few family members….

And so, come September…my little “fan” and some of her close friends and family will likely read about a character with a very similar name, (i.e. nearly identical but not enough to get me sued) depicted in one of the most comical and fabulously scandalous scenes within Death Perception.  And trust me…this isn’t a scene which in any way flatters that character.  :)  (Also trust me….you’ll know it when you read it!)

Is that a mean thing to do? 


Do I care? 


See, although I absolutely understand that reading is subjective and over time there will be MANY people who don’t appreciate my particular sense of humor or writing style and who will post all sorts of negative stuff out on the Internet about me - the defining line is that if you’re going to actually work to piss me off by targeting me directly - well - then you deserve to have your lunch handed to you with a loogey in your mashed potatoes!

And now I’m faced with another psycho who’s working her butt off, trying to pick a fight with me.  She’s this hateful beast with the tag name “Butterscotch” posting alllll sorts of crap about me on Amazon.  She’s even systematically going through each one of my books and assigning a one star rating with buckets of bullshit in her reviews and folks - if this woman has read ONE word of any of my books then I’m a monkey’s uncle.

She strikes me as mentally unstable, there was a whole series of comments from her telling me that she’s taken “screen shots” of some of my quotes and calling all my fans “minions”….minions!  (I suppose that means I walk around with a pitchfork?) 

The head scratcher is that this nut is a total stranger to me and I had no prior beef with her, in fact, I could have cared less if she had maybe stopped at one or two comments or one or two reviews, (and happily, her efforts to the contrary haven’t dampened sales in the least…) but it’s her extra effort that I take issue with.  Lying about reading a book you haven’t just so you can assign it a one star rating and then repeating that process over and over again…well….that’s someone looking for a tussle.

So, darling Butterscotch, as you’ve worked so vigorously to get my attention and let me know you’re itching for a fight…allow me to be the first to declare that the gloves are officially off.

In other words, if in a year you should pick up a copy of Doom With A View and read about a certain transvestite prostitute with a piss poor attitude and a bad case of V.D., who just happens to go by the name of an ice cream topping….well, you and I and about 60,000 of our closest friends and family will know exactly where that inspiration came from.  ;)

And by the way - anyone else out there thinking they can just arbitrarily slam an author and feel good about being particularly nasty…be warned….my editor thinks this concept of mine is hilarious and she’s going to suggest the idea to her other authors who are fed up with being targets for the mentally deranged…in other words I’d advise being very careful whom you choose to direct a personal barb at lest your alter ego appear in a less than flattering way in that author’s next book.

S’all I’m sayin’…


Update to the Update!

Ahhhh…the sweet smell of victory…..  :)

SO!  I’ve been working with Amazon’s community forum and they are the most reasonable people!  They reviewed Bitterscotch’s posts and decided they were indeed, inapropriate and outside their “guidelines.”  (Duh…)

I also had them look at two other authors the Bitterbitch has been posting too, (one of whom has sadly passed away, and Bitterbitch re-posted to this author’s book claiming there was a conspiracy against her…ya think?) and Amazon has removed the nasty woman’s reviews there too.  Yippeeee!

Thanks to Candy Thompson and Deborah MacGillvray for their support, advice and for hanging in there and thanks to everyone else who clicked that “not helpful” and “report this” button - I most appreciate it!



Date Posted: 9/9/2008 10:07 AM ET
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Whoohee! What is some pretty high drama! LOL  There sure are a lot of people with a lot of extra time on their hands. Wish I was one of them. :p

I think life is too short to take the time to go after an author and maybe V is going over the top a bit but that wouldn't affect how I look at her books or her writing. I either like an author's style or I don't. Their personality on the outside would never figure into it.

My mom has written a few books and I've seen the ego struggle and the idea struggles that an author or anyone that creates something goes through. I admire anyone that creates anything and puts it out there for the world to see. I realize that a good critique can be very helpful but to attack someone and put them down in a harsh manner, in public no less,  seems very cruel to me.

Date Posted: 9/9/2008 5:20 PM ET
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Date Posted: 9/9/2008 6:01 PM ET
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Personality and character definitely dictate what I will spend my money toward. Thanks for the heads up on this, I am removing this author from my wishlist. I don't want to dedicate my spare time to someone with so much vindictive and negative energy.

Date Posted: 9/9/2008 7:24 PM ET
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wow- I can understand her being upset that someone posted an unfavorable review, but that is their right to do so- she is taking this way over the top and coming off really bad with her middle school type comments-



Date Posted: 9/9/2008 7:25 PM ET
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After talking with a new author friend of mine we thought it would be a great discussion for my blog -- so I posted briefly about the situation and asked for some feedback.  Feel free to come by and comment (if you'd like).  The link to my blog is in my siggy : )

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 9:49 PM ET
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Like most people, I dislike that the comments get censored, and I do think VL's gone too far, gotten too involved and all that.

But here's where I differ from most of the comments on your blog, Lori.  She's an author.  I like and read her books.  I don't have to like her as a person, just like I don't have to like the barrista at Starbucks or even the doctor who prescibes my allergy meds.  All I really care about is that these people competently deliver what I pay them to deliver to me.  If they're jerks - well that comes with it's own reward.  I don't have to punish one stranger for being a jerk to another stranger.  If you're a jerk to me, no worries.  I'll take care of that.  And I'll do the rest of humankind the courtesy of assuming that they are likewise competent to avenge (or choose to not avenge) any wrongs they suffer at someone else's hands.

Date Posted: 9/11/2008 7:50 AM ET
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I still enjoy her writing, so I'll continue to read her books. She won't get a penny from me though, as I don't purchase any books these days. As for her behavior, I find it somewhat comical. Somebody is going over the line of common decency by calling her out, and she responded by using their likeness as a future character. Maybe they will finally learn some manners after being embarrassed in this manner?

Date Posted: 9/11/2008 7:59 AM ET
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Date Posted: 9/11/2008 11:13 AM ET
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I still enjoy her books..don' thave to care about her as a person..personally I think some of the negative comments that I read though everything's been edited, etc were about as bad but then the authors start in as well...geez...all sound a bit whacked to me. I actually purchase her books new the minute I can get to the bookstore..Ijust happen to like them though the last psychic eye one I didn't like nearly as well because of the doom of gloom hanging over abby's head the w hole first half of the book.

Date Posted: 9/11/2008 4:22 PM ET
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My parents used to buy their baked goods from a local man who I knew to be using the bakery to support his real job- which was illegal in nature.  My parents were aware of this. I asked my parents how they could give him their money knowing it in part was to support an illegal business and they shrugged and said "We like the pastries".



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