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Subject: Water for Elephants question....
Date Posted: 8/14/2010 3:54 PM ET
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I haven't read the book yet, due, in part, that I had heard it deals with animal cruelty... 

Can someone tell me if that is true? 

 

Thanks,

Gina

Date Posted: 8/14/2010 4:46 PM ET
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Yeah, it's in there.

So is really bad writing, and a predictable  and cheesy plot. 

Date Posted: 8/14/2010 6:10 PM ET
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Yes, the animal cruelty is in there.  To me it was essential to the story which was one of the best I've read in years.

via da difference

Date Posted: 8/15/2010 11:04 AM ET
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Integral to the plot..... Difficult for me to read about it.  I didn't think the book was as steller as many people did, but not a bad read.

Date Posted: 8/16/2010 4:54 PM ET
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I agree with Cozette.

I love your dogs, Gina.

I'd say some of the best literature is difficult to read in some way; for example, would you not read Les Miserables, or David Copperfield, which both include human cruelty? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that--am genuinely curious.

I find the older i get the less i want to read painful stories. But when there is redemption of some kind, it's worth the read to me. as long as the writing is as good as in W4E.

& the plot is not cheesy.

Oui, viva la difference.

Date Posted: 8/16/2010 9:27 PM ET
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Yes, there is some, and definitely integral to the story. 

And I loved the book!!!  It's one of the few keepers I have.

Date Posted: 8/18/2010 10:08 AM ET
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& the plot is not cheesy.

 

Hahaha. Whatever you say. 

As a beloved PBS member would say: To Each Her Own.wink

Date Posted: 8/18/2010 11:11 AM ET
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Loved that book, cheezy or not!  Great on audio!

Date Posted: 8/18/2010 7:02 PM ET
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Gina:  read the book.   Hate the man who abuses both the horses AND his wife........Love Rosie------how often does the heroine of the story have four legs, a tail, AND a trunk?

Date Posted: 8/20/2010 8:56 AM ET
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I am another of those who LOVED the book and frequently recommend it to others. There are several parts that are very, very difficult to read due to subject matter, but those parts are very integral to the story. Please don't let those parts stop you from reading this wonderful book.

Date Posted: 8/20/2010 7:58 PM ET
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It was in there, but part of the plot...

it was an OK book.

BETTER ELEPHANT BOOK:  Hannah's Dream

Date Posted: 8/21/2010 1:46 PM ET
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I thoroughly enjoyed the book and loved the ending.

Date Posted: 8/23/2010 12:27 AM ET
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I also really liked this elephant book: 

Date Posted: 8/23/2010 11:29 AM ET
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I listened to the book and found it had many life lessons to consider etc.. The cruelty and the kindness was the plot, no cheese was served.

Date Posted: 8/23/2010 4:08 PM ET
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I just read a book that had cruelty in it, real cruelty:  the topic was World War I and the treatment of the men who came back from that war.  

It is all relative.  My partner could hardly read The Art of Racing in the Rain because of the unintentional cruelty to Enzo the dog in the book..........To Each Her Own is right.

Date Posted: 8/26/2010 10:00 PM ET
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I had it on audio and I loved it!  I thought the voice of the old man was just great!

Date Posted: 8/27/2010 12:16 PM ET
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I thought it was an excellent book - highly recommend it.

Date Posted: 9/10/2010 10:21 PM ET
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I loved that book -- I can't wait to see the movie!

Date Posted: 9/12/2010 7:47 AM ET
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I enjoyed this book and the cruelty was not as bad as I thought it would be (bad in that I mean graphically depicted). The first scene in the Horse Whisperer was the most horrifying chapter I have ever read so I compare everything to that. I won't even see the movie because of it.



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Date Posted: 9/12/2010 9:18 AM ET
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One of the best books I have ever read - EVER - and yes, animal cruelty is a part of it, but only a part.  I agree it's crucial to the plot, and hard to read, but I would urge anyone not to pass on this gem.

Subject: Water for Elephants
Date Posted: 9/17/2010 6:42 PM ET
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I read it as well and thought it was a very good book. I recommended it for my mom to read and and she really liked it as well.

 

Almost made me want to read it again.



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Subject: Water for Elephants
Date Posted: 10/22/2010 2:48 PM ET
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Really good book!  The animal cruealty is there, but it is so important to the story and a supporting character!~

Date Posted: 10/29/2010 7:12 PM ET
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I read the book and thought it was fine.  But then I got the audio from Mary Mary and ohm'god.  It is absolutely one of the best audio books I've ever listened to, and I hear a lot!  The performers were astounding.  I didn't know it was going to be a movie!

And, one of the worst books I've read this year--no, the worst book I've read this year--was the audio of Gruen's Riding Lessons.  Couldn't even finish it.  Nasty heroine.  And, speaking of the Horse Whisperer, the opening scene in Riding Lessons was way too much like the one in Whisperer. 

Date Posted: 10/30/2010 4:16 PM ET
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The positive? redeeming? thing about this animal cruelty is that it's shown for what it is.

Hopefully it will make people who would not otherwise think about it, think about how animals are treated in these situations.

I thought the book was good, and well worth reading, but I'm not sure it would be in my top 100....

Date Posted: 11/1/2010 8:59 PM ET
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WATER FOR ELEPHANTS is one book I will not give away.  I loved the story (my grandfather worked with elephants initially when he immigrated to the US from Hungary) and yes, there is cruelty to both animals and humans in the book.  I read it first, then listened to it on audio. The audio did an excellent job with the voice of each character.   I really enjoyed a look at a by-gone era that held the excitement of a traveling circus coming to town.  It is seldom you find books that deal with older adults.  I loved the ending.  Cheesy?  Not to me.



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