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Subject: What Can Be Done About Over Posting in BB???
Date Posted: 4/29/2008 8:51 AM ET
Member Since: 3/25/2008
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The only reason I ask this is because I only allow myself to post or bump once a day, but then others come along and post theirs 3 or 4 times. I tried to be helpful to one person in particular and they took me as being rude and I think I offended them. They have since threatened me. So that's the last time I try to be helpful and now just want to know what there is that can be done about over posting, or over bumping???

So the what I thought was helpful story is... I noticed the same person had 4 of the same post yesterday, different wording, but same post. I just kindly sent them the rules thread. They then pm'd me telling me that I was wrong and they had only posted once that day, so me being the curious type person I am went and did a quick search with their nickname and in deed found 4 of basically the same post all in the same forum. So I just pm'd back stating that I did in deed find 4 post from them. Not only does this person still deny having done all these post, but they are now "threatening" me I guess you could call it. Telling me that they're going to let people know I'm being rude to them. I was not at all rude in my wording, I just don't think they liked being called out on their lieing. Which, yes lying does bother me and I will do the same with this as I do my kids. I will let them know they are lieing and show or tell them the proof that lets me know they are in fact not telling the truth.

Basically is there a way to flag over-posting or anything???

Thanks :)

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 8:57 AM ET
Member Since: 6/20/2007
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Leann,

There's 1 member in particular that I've noticed posting a "look at my shelf" (no deal involved) over many forums over and over, a new one daily.  It is really getting annoying.  Being that they are now sending you threatening PMs, I suggest contacting TPTB using the Contact Us link, including a copy of the rude PMs.

FWIW, I'm glad you said something to this person.

Sheryl

 

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 9:10 AM ET
Member Since: 2/28/2007
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Yes, make sure you send the emails in to PBS, and they'll take care of it!

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 10:01 AM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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Nothing much can be done other than kindly letting them know about the rules and people not taking them up on their offers when they do it. Its not worth your stress to argue with them about it. Yesterday was actually the slowest day in the BB I have seen since joining. I think the over posting is driving people out of the bazaar, not getting those people more exposure.

As for the person Sheryl referred to, I am beginning to think she has got some mental handicap so I take pitty on her and just ignore her. It almost seemed like she was being stalked over the weekend and I would have become frustrated if I were her too. Yes, she is still not following the rules, but if she is not going to understand them there is nothing anyone can do.  Its annoying, but again not worth the stress of arguing with someone who does not/cannot understand the rule.

Also - when prompting people about over posting, please take note of the time stamp on the multiple posts. There is a fairly frequent glitch that will post a thread 2-3 times and its not really the posters fault.



Last Edited on: 4/29/08 10:02 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/29/2008 10:42 AM ET
Member Since: 1/12/2008
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I avoid the Book Bazaar. It's not worth saving a credit or two. It gives me a headache and it does seem like there a different type of person who "stalks" that board. It has gotten 100% worse since I joined a few months ago. I used to like it but now it's just conplicated, confusing, and rude.

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 10:52 AM ET
Member Since: 3/10/2006
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I guess we had a moderator there once but he's gone.  Sounds like it'd be good to have one again.

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 11:05 AM ET
Member Since: 4/17/2008
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Can I ask a question about the Book Bazaar, because this is something that's confusing me.

I read the thread about the rules, and I understood that a person can only make one deal a day and only bump his or her deal thread once a day.  However, I don't remember seeing anything about the threads where we could highlight our books in, and do those threads fall under the "one post per day" rule?  This is the part that confuses me.

Maybe it would be a good idea if they could break the Book Bazaar down into two sections - one where people can offer their deals and another where people can highlight their shelves/ask about books/post "look at my shelf please" threads.

Nobody has the right to threaten anyone here, but on the other hand, nobody should be stalked either.  Here's hoping PBS steps in before it gets out of hand.



Last Edited on: 4/29/08 11:19 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/29/2008 11:06 AM ET
Member Since: 5/10/2005
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We had a community-elected moderator. That's all I can remember, and I haven't seen her in quite a while.

She never had the ability to remove threads or such, which is what a moderator needs, and I don't think she ever got an official title.  We hoped.

At one point they had talked about putting some moderators into the forums to help keep things calm/take some weight off R&R, but there was some issue on the technical side about giving them the ability to do anything, and I guess it never went anywhere.

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 11:48 AM ET
Member Since: 2/5/2007
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Laura - while I don't believe that the rules specifically address it, I'm of the opinion that the "Hightlight this book"  threads should follow the same rules as everyone else in the Book Bazaar.  Going in there and finding one after another after another of those is just as irriatating to me as finding numerous offers from the same person.   Why would the rules apply to one and not to the other?     I understand that some were/are trying to make the BB more interesting.   I find the overwhelming number of those threads an overkill, to say the least.   Again - this is just my opinion.  

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 12:00 PM ET
Member Since: 6/4/2007
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I started a thread in Club Members' Thoughts about this the other day, subject line Book Bazaar (vent).  I was surprised at how many people noticed similar problems arising.  There were suggestions on how to handle things, ideas on how to possibly improve the situation, explainations of the rules, etc.  There might be answers to your questions there, or just a place to toss in your two cents.  I felt kind of proud to have offered a sounding board, at first I thought my post would get me burned at the stake.  We're not alone, though, and if nothing else, as long as we can stay relatively positive, I think discussion can bring results or at least sooth the frustration.

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 12:01 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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I agree with Cozette that all threads in the BB need to follow the same rules. Otherwise all you'd have is someone posting a ton of threads "Highlight a book with ____ and I have this one, and oh, by the way, I am offering a deal right now. .." Just because you use different wording does mean it isn't the same thing, highlighting YOUR shelf, which is limited to one post/one bump per day. I will say it is more eye pleasing that seeing 3 for 1 offers 15 times though.

Date Posted: 4/29/2008 12:05 PM ET
Member Since: 4/17/2008
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Thanks for explaining, Cozette.  I wasn't sure if it was a matter of breaking the rules or other members' preferences, which was the source of my confusion (because there have been times when I've read rules quickly and missed something).  Thanks for clearing it up, and I appreciate it. :-)

Date Posted: 5/3/2008 2:06 AM ET
Member Since: 6/26/2007
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"Hightlight this book"...

Ok I'm guilty of posting to a bunch of these in a row. Then I did a search for more like this topic because I thought it was fun. (That's how I came across this thread). It didn't even occur to me that it would be in the same catagory as bumping one's post more then once a day. I posted due to reading an earlier thread about how the BB started as more of a hightlight of my shelf (without deals) keeping in the one credit per book thread and  how it is difficult to include enough detail in the title of the deal (genres).

Maybe a sticky thread of Deals, Looking for, and highlights might be a good idea to make searches easier.

I'll have to think about this before I do anymore BB posts.

Date Posted: 5/3/2008 9:47 AM ET
Member Since: 5/23/2005
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I had no idea you couldn't post in more than one thread a day.  So I am guilty, but worse, I am also a complainer of those constant bumpers and new, individual threads.

I really enjoyed those "highlight" threads, and believed we could post in any or all of them daily, as long as we were not starting multiple new threads daily.

I'll just try to stick to Hidden Gems...a wonderful, and under-used forum.

Date Posted: 5/3/2008 10:24 AM ET
Member Since: 2/13/2007
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Bonnie, you can post in more than one thread a day there, you just aren't supposed to post more than one thread a day. 

Date Posted: 5/3/2008 12:45 PM ET
Member Since: 4/17/2008
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"Hightlight this book"...

Ok I'm guilty of posting to a bunch of these in a row. Then I did a search for more like this topic because I thought it was fun. (That's how I came across this thread). It didn't even occur to me that it would be in the same catagory as bumping one's post more then once a day. I posted due to reading an earlier thread about how the BB started as more of a hightlight of my shelf (without deals) keeping in the one credit per book thread and  how it is difficult to include enough detail in the title of the deal (genres).

I really enjoyed those "highlight" threads, and believed we could post in any or all of them daily,

These are two different quotes by two different members, but I think they reflect the confusion that a lot of us have felt at some point or another.  I also at one point (04/22/08) posted in three highlight threads because I thought it was acceptable.

From what I understand, it's technically okay to post in as many *Hightlight* threads as much as you want per day because there aren't official rules against it.   The people who own this site have not addressed any rules against it, and like one person pointed out in the quote above, the BB did seem to be a place to highlight one's bookshelf.

However, it's seen as disrespectful by some to highlight your bookshelf more than once a day when people can only bump their deal threads once a day and make only one deal thread per day.  I'm very neutral on this subject, and I can see their point.  For me personally, posting in one *Highlight* thread per day from now on is good enough. :-)



Last Edited on: 5/3/08 12:45 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 5/4/2008 10:54 PM ET
Member Since: 8/1/2007
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I agree with Cozette also. Those "highlight your book" threads could easily take over the first page as they did when they were first posted. As a BB browser and requestor, I have no interest in those since I'm looking to stretch my credits. As a deal poster, I don't want to lose my spot on the first page in 30 minutes or less due to those highlight threads combined with the frequent bumpers that are not following the rules. JMO of course.