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I'm noticing more often on here (granted, I am not on here a whole lot) people have stipulations about the books they are willing to accept. Today someone requested a book of me with a message that said he/she has allergies and would like books from a non-smoking home only. While our home is smoke-free, I did get this from another swapper on this site and would have no control over their smoking preference. I smelled the book and it just smells like... pretty much nothing. What is my protection from a swapper that makes stipulations such as that if they were to say, "well I was coughing and know that this book came from a smoker's home"?
I also received a book from a fellow swapper that had a liquid spill of some sort that soaked into a big chunk of the pages, reaching down into the print. I did not complain. I didn't realize it was something to even complain about! These are USED books for crying out loud. It was readable. But it doesn't meet the requirements to be reposted?!? I've also received a book with what looked to be chocolate (I pray that that's what it was!) here and there. Hey, I like to munch when reading a good book, too. Sticker residue from a price tag?!? People really complain about that?
Perhaps there should be a rating scale on the quality of each individual's books or a space where the owner of a requested book can describe any "imperfections" or possible disappointments that they may anticipate other swappers could possibly find.
This is a little annoying and detracting from the exchange process's appeal. If someone wants a new book, GO BUY IT NEW!
I haven't posted anything recently so I'm not sure of the current wording but liquid spills and stains are two of the main things specifically mentioned when you post a book as being completely unacceptable at PBS. That's nothing to do with anyone's preference, it's the rules of the site. If you don't care about receiving books like that, that's perfectly fine, but don't expect to be able to send them on to others without receiving complaints.
If you want to know what is postable in general--ie, for someone without special requestor conditions--that information is given each and every time you post a book. It says,
I promise to follow the Golden Book Rule: My books have front and back covers, all pages, no liquid damage, no writing or highlighting, are not Advanced Reader Copies (ARCs), and my books are in generally good condition.
And then when you mouse over that "good condition" it says:
There is more, too, but those are the basics.
As far as "no books currently in a smoking home" if yours is a non-smoking home, your book meets the criteria. If it's more stringent, such as "no books that have been exposed to smoke," then I would decline if it's a used book, because you just don't know where it's been. This IS a used book site. Very few people expect perfect books--but PBS does allow them to specify just what they want. If your books don't meet their criteria or you're uncomfortable taking a chance with a Requestor Condition, PBS also gives you the right to turn it down.
I shoud add that, because PBS is based on FIFO (first in, first out) rating people or giving conditions of individual copies of books just wouldn't work here.
Last Edited on: 10/29/09 5:04 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
The Help Center has a real nice list of what is allowed to be swapped here.....for your convenience I've posted below.
These Guidelines are not suggestions. They are criteria to which all books Posted here MUST comply.
All of the information below apply both to swapping for credits and Box-O-Books swapping.
this exception applies to the covers of cookbooks also.
Page edges: remainder marks are OK. A name written on the page edges is okay (if it does not bleed in and obscure text on the text pages)
Also if someone with a "not-currently in a smoking environment" RC complains about a book you sent: you do not have to refund them a credit. You just state "my home is non-smoking home and there fore met with the RCS". Obviously if you have a book you bought used that just reeks of smoke-you might want to turn even that RC down. I've been turning cat RCS down even though I don't have a cat. The previous owner had 5 cats, I had some books stored at a friend who has 3 cats and I got a bunch of books from my stepmother who had 3 cats. I can't remember which books where where and with them side by side on my shelves there could be cat hair transfer. Plus I have 2 dogs and I'm always worried that I'll be accused of sending a cat book if they see dog hair-and all my books come with dog hair.
others have pasted the exact rules for postability.
A thought about your examples, though .... the things that generally make a book "unpostable" are things that make it gross, or things that make it too damaged to read.
1. Nobody wants sticky stuff on the cover. How do I know when I reeive a book with sticky stuff on it ... that it is sticker residue? Could be anything, for all I know. (Now having said that, I am pretty good at cleaning off sticky stuff, so I probably wouldn't RWAP a sticky cover myself ... but still ... that doesn't mean its not gross.).
2. Nobody wants food stained or food fingerprinted pages. That's just gross. Not to mention, food residue attracts bugs and rodents.
3. Nobody wants books with water damage, or worse, mysterious liquid damage. That is gross, in the case of mystery liquid, or can grow mildew and mold, in the case of water and mystery liquid.
I have more than 2,000 "used" books in my home and none of them have any food in them, or water damaged pages, or sticky stuff on the covers. Some of them are well-used, having been read multiple times. There is a lot of dog-ears, cover folds, cover curls, etc. in my books. They are not perfect. But, they are certainly not gross by any stretch of the imagination. I don't want any gross books. But well used and well loved is OK with me. And, it seems to be OK with most PBS members.
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Ha, ha - thanks for all the replies and rules. This has been helpful to me as I have a cookbook that I'd recently bought used and the previous owner had handwritten a recipe on the back blank page as well as placed an asterik by some recipes which she/he then used a dot of white out to try to hide. I thought about posting it but didn't think I could. Sounds like I can as long as I send a message informing the swapper and receive their reply accepting the condition.
I'm also glad to see yellowing from age is acceptable because I was afraid it was not since other staining isn't.
Also as an aside - there isprovision for tradingandswapping - either for credit or not - books that don't meet the conditions. You just put them on your public profile, in your post's signature line and/or offer them in the Book Bazaar. I've managed to trade of several that way. Barely missed the postability standards -but still got a credit since they were heavily WL'd. It's just that unpostables cannot be posted into the FIFO system.
I am on this site because the used books are not allowed to be gross. I don't want pristine, I just don't want gross. PBS has standatds that it expects the members to follow. People who refuse to comply should not chide an angry recipient with the old, "go buy the book new." Those senders should trade on a site that allows water damaged, chocolate stained, gross books to be offered. Don't trade your books at PBS is you don't believe the rules are worth following.