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Subject: What is the reason?
Date Posted: 1/19/2014 8:32 PM ET
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That I can't post more than one book per week of the same title?  If I have 15 copies of a WL book, I don't see why I can't post them all at once, instead of dragging it out until my last 2 books are not wanted anymore.  I might not want to post all 15, but I don't see why I can't post 5 one week, 5 the next, etc.  It would get the books to the waiting WListers faster/and if I am willing to pay the postage, what is the problem?

I don't get it.

Judye / maysied

Date Posted: 1/19/2014 9:08 PM ET
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You can post another copy as soon as you mark the first one mailed.

Date Posted: 1/19/2014 9:27 PM ET
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Consider it also a safety precaution for the sender maysied.  The purpose is to prevent accidental multiple postings as they are difficult to remove from FIFO, and the other member can become cranky b/c your 'accidental' entry takes them off the wishlist until the matter is resolved.

Also, the system doesn't know the difference between a wishlisted book and a book with copies posted.  Some members don't feel it's fair for a member to be able to post multiple copies of the same book ahead of their one, while waiting for them to be requested. 

Don't think it matters what week it is, at this time members can only post one copy of an ISBN FIFO at a time.  Another may be posted after the first is requested (and marked mailed?).
 



Last Edited on: 1/19/14 9:27 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Cathy A. (Cathy) - ,
Date Posted: 1/20/2014 11:51 AM ET
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The root of the "problem" is that the system treats the posting of all books the same, whether they're WL or not. PBS doesn't want to allow a member to have 15 copies of John Grisham's latest on a single shelf. For whatever reason, that's the decision they've made, and they programmed the site to prevent it.

When you post any book, they treat it as if it's on your shelf until that book is involved in a transaction that reaches a point where you can't cancel it (i.e. when you've clicked Book Has Been Mailed). At that point, the system no longer associates a copy of the book with your shelf, and when you try to post the next one, it will let you.

If you want PBS to change this behavior, you could use the Contact Us link at the bottom of the screen to suggest that they allow you to post a second copy as soon as you've accepted the request for the first copy. That could still lead to a situation where there's only one wisher who cancels after you've posted the second copy, and you would then end up with two copies of a book on your shelf, so if they feel strongly about not having multiples in a single account, they may not want to do this.

Date Posted: 1/20/2014 3:15 PM ET
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But you CAN have multiples of the same book with same title  on your shelf, just not with the exact same ISBN. So a HC and a PB version could both be posted at same time.    I have done this a number of times when I find cheap options for obtaining a book that is WL here.

Date Posted: 1/20/2014 4:36 PM ET
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There is another loophole.  If you received two swapped copies of a book, you can have both posted to your account.  Same ISBN. 

Date Posted: 1/20/2014 5:40 PM ET
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Well, I still don't understand the reason.  But, I admit I am naive and expect no problems.  PBS may have had big mixups and fights over multiple book postings...I don't know.  I just know my mind points in this direction---->

1.  Make 15 people happy in one week

2.  Make more storage space for yourself

3.  Shorten waits for books.

But, what do I know?  It's not my call.  

Judye

 

 

 

Date Posted: 1/21/2014 2:27 AM ET
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You can post multiple copies of a given book by using the "Post a Book Without an ISBN" option. If the title, author, and book type (paperback, hardcover) match, then members who have wish-listed a specific ISBN for the book will get an email from PBS that a similar book has been posted. A 'Similar Book' notice from PBS does not reserve posted books for wishing members if the ISBN does not match, but it does alert them that another copy/edition of the book is available and also provides a link for viewing the alternate listing. When using the "Post a Book Without an ISBN" option for a book with an ISBN, you may want to include the ISBN number in the book description to alert members of the fact.

Also, if you have an image for the book it will be very helpful to include it when posting. You may copy an image for a book already listed here and then upload it when posting, or you may find an image from another website and include that one when posting. You can also include an image for the book that you have scanned or photographed. Including an image, whether posting using its ISBN or not, is a big plus for making the book more attractive to requestors.



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Date Posted: 1/21/2014 4:46 AM ET
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It's one of those loopholes that when a book is posted under the "Without an ISBN" option it DOES NOT get connected to a wishlisted book. Different ISBN number's trigger a Similar Book notice but not those where pbs assigns a number. That is why periodically it's good to double check your wish list. Both my daughter and I have picked-up books off our list that way.

Date Posted: 1/21/2014 11:51 AM ET
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Also, as for posting multiple copies of wishlisted books, especially if you have 15 of them.  There is no way to know how many people in the WL queue are actually active members beforehand.  I've waited longer than three weeks to send out a single book because it cycled over so many people.  And what does the system do if you post more books than the number of people who actually want them even though the number of listed wishers is actually larger.  Then it would fall into the same category as not posting multiple copies of the same book.



Last Edited on: 1/21/14 11:52 AM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 1/21/2014 1:19 PM ET
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Not to mention that someone else may also have a copy of that book that they are trying to post and is it fair that you get to send all yours at once as WL and they don't?  Just saying. 

Trucker is right: a book being WL is no guarantee that everyone on the WL is an active wisher that will accept a copy.  I had one go through over 10 people one time between time outs and autorequests that were cancelled quickly.  There were only 14 people in the line.



Last Edited on: 1/21/14 1:20 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 1/21/2014 2:29 PM ET
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The function is there to protect members for multiple reasons - you can't accidentally post your one copy multiple times; one member can't hog all the spots in line, be it granting wishes or spots on the FIFO line so it keeps it fair to all the members who have the same book to offer. 

So a safeguard causes problems in a pretty rare case of someone sitting there with 15 copies of a Wish Listed book. The protections for members are probably worth the problems caused by not having the safeguards in place.

It is not a random one per week though. As some else said, I believe it is once the previous copy is marked mail you can post another. It might be marked received, but I think it is marked mailed.