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Subject: when I get a request, but it HAS to have a dust jacket I'm suspicious that
Date Posted: 3/20/2011 1:55 PM ET
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Do resellers frequent this site.

 

I've been seeing this more and more.  I prefer to send books to another reader. 

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 2:28 PM ET
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I'm a reader.

And I love having the DJs.  I like to look at the artwork and if its a keeper, the blank spine just looks so... plain on my bookshelf.

Resellers are actually not as commonplace as people seem to think.

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 2:31 PM ET
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I've never sold a book in my life.  I don't have a dust jacket RC, but  I prefer to have a dust jacket.

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 2:32 PM ET
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Resellers are against the Terms of Use, so when the occasional one does turn up, they're generally outsted pretty efficiently.

Plenty of folks want dust jackets for their keeper shelves or gift giving -- it isn't a sign of resale. ;-)

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 2:50 PM ET
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Also, unless you're ordering rare or specialty books like cookbooks or getting new releases when they are brand new, its usually not profitable to resell books given the cost of a credit.  Used fiction books, like those most availablle on the site,in general, aren't worth that much.  The few resellers I've seen "outed" since I've been here have been selling cookbooks or other nonfiction type books.

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 3:30 PM ET
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I was going to say the same thing as Karen.  There isn't much money in reselling most of the books traded on here.  By the time you factor in the cost of earning a credit, either by mailing books out or buying them from other members that's at least a $2.00 investment in the book (and that's if you mailed a small book out that you go for free or found someone selling credits super cheap).  Then anything with any value is going ot have a wait list.  Anything really valuable is probably hard to find and not posted often. Then there's the risk of the book arriving damaged.  I don't see it being very profitable for anyone.

The person likely just wants the dust jacket because it looks better on their shelf.

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 4:16 PM ET
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I want dust jackets. I am not re-selling. I just want the dust jacket.

When I am ordering a book just to read and repost I'll look for a paperback, since it's a lot cheaper/easier to carry around, package, mail, etc. If I want a book to keep on my bookshelf, I'll order a hardcover. With the dust jacket. I want a book that looks nice in my collection.

People often like to have the dust jacket for many reasons. Most aren't resellers. I wouldn't worry so much about it.



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Date Posted: 3/20/2011 4:35 PM ET
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No, resellers don't frequent this site. The very few resellers that do venture here tend to get crushed like bugs really quickly. Asking for dust jackets is NOT in any way an indicator of such a practice.

Just as an experiment, the first time someone accused me of being a reseller just because I wanted dust jackets on my books (I have sold a few books online in the past, but NONE of them were from here), I actually went through and checked every book on my wish list and my bookshelf.

I should note, for the sake of accuracy, that this was about a year or so ago (so, not the same wish list or bookshelf as I have now), and my reading tastes tend to lean far more towards young adult fantasy fiction, with some other stuff, but only a small amount of nonfiction, and NO cookbooks or craft books or anything more valuable like that. A lot depends on that.

But, for me personally, I found that when the cost of the credit and me shipping the book out to the buyer were taken into account, I'd actually lose money in my effort to resell the book approximately 96% of the time. For those that WOULD earn me a profit, it typically amounted to about a dollar or two, if that. Either that, or it was a new release on my wish list that I was well down the list for, and I assume would have a far lower resale value by the time I got it.

So, in the end, I concluded that I'd need to be the worst reseller in history if I were one.

I ask for dust jackets on my books because I really like having the cover art. I am a reader, but I also like having the pretty pictures. It actually makes the book more enjoyable to me, as well as making the book look nicer on the shelf. I can't stand the plain covers on books without dust jackets.

Sometimes it really is that simple. There's no need to over-analyze it.

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 4:36 PM ET
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Add me to the "wanting the dust jacket" crowd.  If it's a keeper, I want the dust jacket.  Also, I have a bunch of hardcover children's books on my WL as well that will end up going to my kids' school.  Since library bindings are so hard to find, they want the dust jacket included so they can cover it with the mylar and the kids can see the artwork and read the blurbs.  Kids are DEFINITELY ones who judge a book by its cover!  So, for those reasons I also want a dust jacket with a hardcover.

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 4:55 PM ET
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What they said Kate.  Some readers just prefer dust jackets, it's really no indication of resellers (of which we have very few).

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 5:37 PM ET
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I want the dust jackets as well. They are great bookmarks.  The only time I am OK getting a hardcover without the dust jacket is if the book is more than 30 years old because I realize there's a good chance with older books that the dust jackets are going to be long gone and I don't want to miss out on an out of print book just because the DJ is missing.

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 5:41 PM ET
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If you're worried about resellers, check out the online prices for whatever book you're considering posting.  Resellers want to make money, if the book's selling used for $10 or less online, there's not much profit there and most resellers wouldn't bother.

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 5:41 PM ET
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Good to know. Thanks for all the responses. 

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 6:26 PM ET
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I like the DJ if a hardcover comes with it, but I don't usually request HC books for  keeper here. I look for my fun to read paperbacks mostly and books for my hubby and 3 daughters so we're not looking for HCs unless that's the only one published so far.

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 7:22 PM ET
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I am always disappointed when a book comes without the dust jacket, primarily because I enjoy the book jacket art, I enjoy reading the blurbs and bio on the flaps, but it is not so important that I MUST have a dust jacket so no RC, but I definitely prefer them and I have never resold a book in my life.

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 8:33 PM ET
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I much prefer the dust jackets. I think the regular book without it just looks odd. I like having a Picture on books. Just a personal preference not the mind of a reseller

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Date Posted: 3/20/2011 9:56 PM ET
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I sold a bunch of old paperback SF from the 50's and 60's on Ebay, and a fair number of them were, by now, anyway, RARE and some of them were expensive and valuable.  Some of Kurt Vonnegut's books were FIRST issued in PB, and I got $400 for one of those, a true first edition!   (I haven't sold anything I've gotten here, of the 1200 or so I've gotten---most went to me or various family and  friends to read.)  HOWEVER! almost nothing from the last 30 years or so, in used condition anyway, is worth reselling, DJ or no DJ.   (The $400 PB was "The Sirens of Titan," from about 1957 or so.)

If I'm reading a HB, I prefer the DJ, because it is a great bookmark (so I'm not tempted to dogear the pages, which I often do with PB's) and the blurbs of info about the book and about the author on the leaves are very worth reading, I think. 

Date Posted: 3/20/2011 10:19 PM ET
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I think the regular book without it just looks odd. I like having a Picture on books.

That's my feeling about it.  Resale doesn't even begin to factor into it for me.  Even books I'm pretty sure I won't keep I ask for the dust jacket for, just in case it does get added to my keeper shelf.  The few books I do have without a dust jacket kind of bug me.  But I'm fussy about my bookshelves that way.  :)

Date Posted: 3/21/2011 1:42 AM ET
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Add me to the list of people who prefer dust jackets.  I don't have an RC requesting the dust jacket (I used to), but like Sally I'm a little disappointed when a hardcover arrives without one.  I've found it to be very rare for a book to arrive without a dust jacket, though--so decided that it just wasn't worth putting the RC in.  And to be honest, the book is perfectly readable without a dust jacket!

Also, I personally don't worry about what the fate of a book is after I've sent it off.  Once I get my credit for it, I'm happy.

Date Posted: 3/21/2011 4:23 AM ET
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I ask for the DJ in my RC.  I am not a reseller as I have been called so many times in the past.  The book looks better and is complete to me.  Do you want a PB or TPB without its cover?  I do collect some books so I want them in their original condition.  And if perchance there is someone who resells, so what?  It is not really profitable from what I understand and read from here.  I give my books to whoever asks for them; I cannot control what they do with it once it is in their hands.  If I started worrying about them selling them or whatever, I would go crazy.

About four members have denied their books to me because of my RC for the DJ stating that I am a reseller.  I have never, ever sold a book and I own over 25,000.  Hubby and I collect books and my house is full of bookshelves everywhere.  Once I read them, the majority of them go up on PBS for others to enjoy unless I decide to keep it and I keep more HBs than PBs/TPBs.

 



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Date Posted: 3/21/2011 11:16 AM ET
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Dust jacket fan here too. Leaving off the RC usually means that I have wasted a credit trying to get a book that I was hoping to get to keep on my shelf.

Date Posted: 3/21/2011 11:43 AM ET
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I don't have an RC about DJs, but do like them.  I got a book the other day that has such a beautiful DJ (SHADOWFEVER - Karen Ann Moning) that I'm going to have a hard time reposting it.  It's a beautiful book to just look at.  LOL.  Pat

Date Posted: 3/21/2011 12:40 PM ET
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I do not find books to be perfectly readable without dustjackets.The artwork and ancillary information on the cover is part of the reading process for me, and I would not enjoy the book as much without it.

I've passed up buying Wish Listed hardcover books at library sales (for $1) that are without dustjackets.  I don't like books without dustjackets.

And, in fact, books without dustjackets are always for sale cheaper than other books at library sales and the like ... because MOST other people won't buy them without the covers either.

I think there are a lot of dust jacket lovers out there.



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Date Posted: 3/21/2011 12:43 PM ET
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Also a fan of dustjackets!  for most of the same reasons: I enjoy looking at the artwork, I like to read the cover blurbs and/or summary/description, and very useful as bookmark when I don't have something better handy.  I'd really, really prefer them on my "keeper" books.  Not so important if it's a book that I'm just going to read and repost, but still would prefer them than not have them.

I haven't yet ever resold any of the books I own, although someday I might.  That certainly isn't why I have an RC asking about DJs on my hardcover requests, though.



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Date Posted: 3/21/2011 3:49 PM ET
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I don't have too many HCs on my shelf anymore, since I just want to read the book and will repost when I'm done, but I prefer having a DJ too.  In fact, when I used to buy HCs new (in those long-ago days of pre-PBS) I always kept the DJ.  The few HC I posted when I first joined PBS were pristine and it never occured to me until reading the forums that some folks don't keep them.

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