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Subject: Why do some members consider good quality brand new?
Date Posted: 9/4/2010 3:22 AM ET
Member Since: 6/1/2008
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I sent out a book today that almost scared me to do so.  I realize some people receive terrible quality books: I have received some myself.

However, in the request section this person said:

   Books must have NO crease on spine, have no wear, ,, on and on and on.  Her "instructions" were 4 lines long!!

The book I had looked almost new, but don't people realize that a good condition is not a brand new one??  I also had someone say that my book was unacceptable because the dust jacket was not PERFECT, when our rules clearly say you don't even have to include one. I always notify first if I don't have one just to be sure, but some of the newer members are expecting brand new books, not good used ones.  I am very very careful what I mail out  I don't send out anything I would not want myself. 

Guess I'm just fussing. 

Date Posted: 9/4/2010 5:36 AM ET
Member Since: 8/18/2005
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Lots of people don' t seem to read the rules and don't realize a DJ isn't required. That may happen once in a while, but I wouldn't worry about it. A RWAP on that front will show it wasn't your fault. As for a lot of conditions on an RC I wouldn't worry about it either. People have a right to ask for what they want, and if your not comfortable with it just decline. They have their reasons for their requests and you have yours for accepting or declining. No harm done if the parties involved decide to take a pass on a trade. Just remember that in the future you may have your own reasons for an RC, and respond to them as you'd like to have people respond to yours.
Date Posted: 9/4/2010 8:56 AM ET
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You don't have to accept book requests with conditions like that.  I don't.  I would have declined for the "no wear" part.  Even a brand new book from a bookstore is likely to have some wear.  You don't have to feel guilty about turning down RCs like that.  The only RCs I send to are "dust Jacket" if  my book has the dust jacket, no smoking, no cat, please wrap in plastic type ones.  Once people start listing things about the physical condition of the book-I decline.  I don't need the credit that badly. The book is likely to get ordered by someone else soon anyway.

For dust jacket RCS-if they have an RC asking for a dust jacket then the DJ is supposed to meet the club guidelines: no stains etc...,  But only if htey have a dj RC. 

Date Posted: 9/4/2010 10:18 AM ET
Member Since: 5/14/2009
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I agree with Mary, that a book brand new from the bookstore may show signs of wear though minimal. 

Books need to meet Book Condition Criteria for "Swappability" at PBS.  If there is a Requestor Condition attached to the request and you accept, then you are obligated to meet the new conditions.  You are not required to accept a RC if you are unsure if the book meets the requirements.

To find out more about Requestor Conditions, see help doc How to Use Requestor Conditions.

I will not always accept RCs that request new or like new books.  In my opinion it is subjective and I will not accept any RC that interpret to be subjective. 

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Date Posted: 9/4/2010 12:40 PM ET
Member Since: 2/21/2009
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I agree with Mary, and decline any RCs that have any degree of subjectivity. I have no problem that it's their perogative to put anything they want. It's mine to decline. If I've gotten an order, it's likely I'll get another, and I don't want to risk the book and my time and postage on the possibility of a rwap for interpretive reasons.

Date Posted: 9/4/2010 3:58 PM ET
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Date Posted: 9/6/2010 6:02 PM ET
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Date Posted: 9/6/2010 10:17 PM ET
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To echo what Robin said:

If there is a Requestor Condition attached to the request and you accept, then you are obligated to meet the new conditions.

Requestor conditions are designed for when someone wants a book that is in "better-than-PBS" condition.  The rules say a book must be in good condition, and doesn't need to have a dust jacket.  But if she wants a book that's in better-than-good condition, and with a dust jacket, she's allowed to attach that condition, and of course you're allowed to decline.