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Subject: Wish List Activity Slowed down alot. Anyone else?
Date Posted: 5/29/2011 7:05 AM ET
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For the past two months, acitivity on my Wish List has slowed down to hardly anything.  I used to receive and mail out books just about every day. Sometimes more than one book a day.  Now, in the past month I have only sent out about 4 books and have not gotten much more than that.  These books are mostly Romance Books and I wonder if it has to do with the increase in the Postal Rates.  Is anyone else having this problem?

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 9:06 AM ET
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Most of my WL is on hold because my TBR pile is so huge, but I have noticed less requests from my bookshelf.  I'm not sure if that's because fewer people are requesting or just because what I have left on my shelf are highly posted books and I haven't made my way to the top of the FIFO yet.

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 9:06 AM ET
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Darn double posts.



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Date Posted: 5/29/2011 9:15 AM ET
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I have been getting more wish list books lately (but that always runs in cycles and a month or so ago there were no WL books flowing my way)...and I have mailed 18 books in the last week with 10 requests just in the last two days. As far as mailing books out, I see a direct correlation between listing books and getting requests, even if the books I am listing are not WL books... it's almost like priming the pump!

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 9:18 AM ET
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I mailed out 5 WL books last week.  I've been receiving 1-2 WL books a week for awhile.  I read them and send them right back out.

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 9:31 AM ET
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It seems to go in cycles for me.  I've noticed lately that my wishlist is slowing down.  It might have said that certain books should be posted within the next week.  But three weeks later, I'm stil waiting for them to be posted.   I read romance (all genres) and mysteries.  Do you think the increase in ereaders is slowing down the number of newer books being posted?

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 9:59 AM ET
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It also could be that more people do not post WL books because they want to put them in the multiples thread in book bazaar.  Every time a WL book is posted to the multiples thread, it's a book that is not be posted to the FIFO, and people in the WL lines wait longer.



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Date Posted: 5/29/2011 10:07 AM ET
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I would like to know how the multiples thread has really affected the WL wait times since the concept was started a year or so ago..   I know that the answer is not going to be known, but I bet it has increased the times people wait for books on the WL.   It just has to have affected it.    There is a huge incentive to NOT post to FIFO.  I mean, who doesn't want to save on shipping?  I know I want to!

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Date Posted: 5/29/2011 10:54 AM ET
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The multples thread is only having an effect on you if somebody who is in line behind you is getting the book because of it. If you are #93 and the book goes to #57 (because she grabbed it from the multiples thread) instead of #1, that has no effect on your wait time. Therefore, the effect is different on every person, and I'm not sure it can be measured. In any case, the effect cannot be huge. Just by counting up the number of books listed in the thread and comparing to the number of wishes granted for those titles you can easily see that only a small number of WL books are swapped through the multiples thread.

I've been watching my WL and the multiples thread more than usual for the past month, and I've moved up over 50 places for Charlaine Harris' latest book since it was released on 5/3. I don't think that was posted in the multiples thread once.

For me, the thing that's having the biggest impact is whether or not the book is being sold in the PBS Market. If it gets sold there, the lines move a whole lot faster. I don't know whether it's people in front of me buying the book and getting out of line, or others buying it and then posting it to swap, but it's working for me.



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Date Posted: 5/29/2011 10:58 AM ET
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I think the WL multiple threads help.  People don't have the budget to just post every book to FIFO.  A lot of those people offering books in the WL thread might not have posted them all or even any of them if they couldn't send them together. 

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 12:16 PM ET
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I appreciate the WL multiples because it saves postage. However, I share the frustration of those who say their WL doesn't move. Mine either.

So I when I post a FIFO book and my request is accepted, I check out that member's WL and, if I have another book on their list, PM that person and offer them the second book. 

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 12:22 PM ET
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I think the multiple wl thread helps.  I, as I'm sure others, buy wl books fol (not to read myself) just to post to the list to help the lines move faster.  Those books would never be added to the system otherwise.

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 12:36 PM ET
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I post almost nothing by WL books these days.  If it weren't for the multiples thread, I would post maybe 1-2 in a month instead of 20 (which is usually what I do).  So I would definitely fall into that group of people who wouldn't post the books with having the multiples thread.  Postage is expensive enough for my very limited budget that I'd rather buy credits from the Bazaar and give the books to local friends.  But with the multiples thread, the cost per credit goes down enough that I can afford to share my books with other readers. 

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 1:33 PM ET
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Of the 9 books currently en route to me, 5 were on my Wish List.

I have just mailed 8 FIFO orders, yesterday.

I have actually noticed an increase in Wish List books being posted over the past 2 months. I have had 1 or 2 WL offers every week for the past 2 months.

I believe that summer is actually more active on PBS, as vacations give readers more time to read, usually, and they either order books for their vacations, or buy some and then post them when they return.

The postage increase was only 3 cents per MM package. It is not a budget breaker.

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 1:39 PM ET
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If there is actually a slow down (although I have not noticed one) I would attribute it to e-readers, like someone mentioned above, not postage.

Since pretty much everybody at PBS is interested in reading and books, we are the population must likely to be purchasing or being gifted with e-readers (ahead of the general pop). So, I think, in general, WL lines for newly issued books will start to move more slowly in the future (although, who knows, people who are likely to read new releases on their e-readers perhaps won't WL the books in the first place, so maybe the lines will stay shorter but move more slowly overall.)

But what I actually think, is that people who read both e-books and paper books will put the books on their WL, and then see what comes fastest ... paper copy, e-book from the library, purchase e-book, discounted or free e-book.

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 1:44 PM ET
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Maybe general activity has slowed because of the time of year. Nice weather, vacations, graduations, etc.- not as much time to devote to book swapping.

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 2:02 PM ET
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I can't really say that for myself, just started a month ago i think and i have no credits.

Date Posted: 5/29/2011 3:37 PM ET
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Welcome Brianna.

I think e-readers are having some impact.  But otherwise, it's a busy time of year for many people.  In my experience (although people may read more over summer vacation) they are often too busy to post books back into the system (sweeping generalities here) and we'll see a bunch of books posted again after school starts in the fall.

Date Posted: 5/30/2011 11:22 AM ET
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My experience matches Denise. I usually see a lot of WL activity in the beginning and the end of summer, not much in the middle.  But my WL seems active enough, I've had 6 offers in the last month come to me. 

Date Posted: 5/30/2011 12:16 PM ET
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I would like to know how the multiples thread has really affected the WL wait times since the concept was started a year or so ago..   I know that the answer is not going to be known, but I bet it has increased the times people wait for books on the WL.   It just has to have affected it.    There is a huge incentive to NOT post to FIFO.  I mean, who doesn't want to save on shipping?  I know I want to!

There were similar threads in some of the Genre prior to the Bazaar thread and the Team felt it did not affect much because the volume of books going through those threads is so mimimal compared to what goes through the system every day. IMO, it doesn't make the WL lines slower because many people who use the threads would never have posted those books FIFO anyway. Many of us who don't need the credits, those who couldn't afford to send singles, or those who find buying cheaper than sending one book at a time stopped posting WL books altogether. The WL Multiples threads allows people to again send WL books at a cheaper per book postage cost. IMO there are now many books getting to PBS members that would have never made it to the system without the multiples threads.

Increased postal rates, year end school activities, e-readers all seem likely to lead to a decrease in books posted, yet the Pulse says over 47,000 books were mailed in the last 7 days so that doesn't seem to indicate posting is down.

Subject: Ohh WL books Ohh WL ohh where art thou?
Date Posted: 5/30/2011 8:00 PM ET
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I have some WL books that i've had on my WL for a couple yrs now. I have NO problem shipping out books. I have 1300 books listed I even had way more than that not long ago.. Very good books I am guessing as I have Request all through the week..I start each month with either 75.00 or 100.00 that I put in for DC's and printable postage. I send out so many books that by the 3rd week of the month after purchasing the $ 75 or $100 dollars that I may have 10.00 or less. Every once in awhile i'll have a little over 15.00 left at the end of the month.. I list so many and I do often after listing new books have 1 to 3 WL book holds. Sometimes up to 4 books on WL hold waiting to see if the member has the credits to get them. However, I thought my WL books fell off the face of the earth. I mean waiting for so long for some of them, and its funny, they are everyday read books such as Janet Evanovich or James Patterson or Stuart Woods, but I don't hardly ever get a WL book, but the last 4 that I did get. Not only was I fall over shocked, but when the books arrived I was fall over pissed. Either the members did not read my RC's. "which are very very simple" anyway, the last 4 WL books that came to me were either HC and not LP or LP and not HC OR PB and not what I asked for in the first place and I got one envelope with  (2) WL books that shoud of been in the package, but nope nothing, just the paper thin no bubble wrap no taped up envelope. Envelope did arrive w/o the 2 WL books, I say that a little tape goes a long long way when applied to the HC wrapped book's. Especially when there was suppose to be 2 HC WL books inside. One of the WL HC and LP  books I did get or what was left of 1 of them, I could take the back cover of a HC WL book and fold it under to meet the front cover backwards, those books should not be listed to begin with, but they are. I know it sounds crazy, but you'd have to see it for yourself to believe it. Thank God that since they are WL books I go back to where I was at my place in getting the books again.

As for the question at the start here did the WL books slow down? I didn't ever see it where it was at any speed, but extremely slow for me, but slow or neal to none then bam I got 4 in a row. I was so excited to be getting 4 WL books and even wrote the member on the last book and said it is a HC and LP right? No response, and when i got the book it was HC but not LP and she said I had it listed for PB and she said PB did nmot have that book in LP. I got an email from PBS where the memeber was wrong. She did list the book as HC and LP.  Didn't matter they were all wrong anyway. I would much rather wait so the money goes to PBS, but I had had to result to Amazon or for the most my Kindle. With the Kindle it doesn't help as most or all of my WL books are ones i'm collecting for my series.And with the Kindle I don't actually have the book other than on the Kindle device so, again I had no book to add to my series.

I bought Mothers And Other Liars from PBS and was never so annoyed at one book. After the 1st page I listed it right away and its packaged now to go to its new home.. I just didn't get it. I went to the same Authors other books and then didn't feel bad as I could plainly see that the other books by the same Author were not meant for me to begin with I guess!!. I saw sevearl bad reviews, but its ok as we all have different taste in books. I hope the new member getting it is very happy with it. I'll be soooo happy to get just 1 series completed with the books from my WL

Date Posted: 5/30/2011 8:17 PM ET
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It seems to me that every time I am out of credits, I get requests for books a week later.  I  mailed 6 or 7 books the last time i was out, and 5 this time.   Of course, that could be  because I post books I was holding on to, and they are popular. I'm trying to decide if I can part with The hunger games set.  maybe I'll read them again, then post.

Date Posted: 5/30/2011 9:48 PM ET
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I just went thru a 2 or 3 month period where I got nothing from my WL.  In the last 2 weeks, it's just expoloded though and I've got a ton of new books on their way to me.  All of them posted FIFO, I've just worked my way up to the top of the list.

That's prompted me to post some WL books I've been hanging on to so that my credit stash doesn't get too low.  Passing along the good WL FIFO fortune to others.

Date Posted: 5/30/2011 11:00 PM ET
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Everything at PBS tends to run in streaks for me. I haven't noticed any overall slow-down either in requests or in wishlist books coming available to me, but as I said, it's streaky. I just got the last of 8 books from my wishlist that came up over a 3-day period a couple of weeks ago. Since then, I've only had one WL book come up and that is on the way to me now. I have five books requested to mail tomorrow, all requested over the weekend. But the week before, I had no requests.

There are some books that have been on my WL for years and I've been at #1 in the queue for for a long, long time that I wonder if I'll ever get. There's others that I started at #100+ but move quickly through the ranks due to the popularity of the book and get it after just a few months.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 5/31/2011 1:39 PM ET
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I'm still averaging at least one or two WL books a month.  I have about 30 WL books on my TBR list.  Need to step up my reading speed I guess.

-RD

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