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Subject: Wish members would at least read my RC...
Date Posted: 3/15/2011 10:57 AM ET
Member Since: 11/30/2007
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it's not that bad...

I know members have the right to turn down requests that have RCs as much as we have the right to have an RC. But, why can't they at least read them? Even if they just read the first sentence. My RC is only that if it is a hardcover that its DJ be included. If its a paperback, then my RC has no meaning and they should send it.

One of my wishlist books is on its second member, first one just wrote 'No thanks" and the 2nd member looks like she joined on the 13th, got her two credits and left. It will go back on my list tonight.

A different wishlist book came up and the member declined my book with this message - I don't send books to people who have special requests. I don't intend to risk my credits on someone else's book issues. I send out perfectly acceptable books and if people cannot trust that, they can always go buy new books

First of all, it had to take her longer to write that paragraph than to read my RC. Her wishlist book is a paperback book, not a hardcover. The first sentence in my RC is, * If this is a paperback book, please ignore my RC and send it.  Second of all, if her book was a hardcover, either it has a DJ or it doesn't. She wouldn't be risking a credit, only if she sent a hardcover without it's dustjacket.

This is becoming more disappointing after waiting months for wishlist books to only have someone who won't  take the time to at least read my RC. It's not like I'm asking for an "odor-free" book, or a zillion things, or a " like new" book for goodness sakes.

Thanks for letting me rant.

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 11:03 AM ET
Member Since: 12/31/2009
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Sorry this is happening to you.

Your RC is only about dust jackets? I have the same RC and I almost never get declined. You're just having a run of bad luck. Hang in there.

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 11:06 AM ET
Member Since: 11/11/2005
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Ditto to what Lisa said.  I think you are having a run of bad luck.  I also have the same RC with pretty much the same wording and have had only one person mis-understand it or turn me down flat because of it in the past several years.

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 11:34 AM ET
Member Since: 2/13/2007
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A different wishlist book came up and the member declined my book with this message - I don't send books to people who have special requests. I don't intend to risk my credits on someone else's book issues. I send out perfectly acceptable books and if people cannot trust that, they can always go buy new books

Connie, that sort of snarky response would irritate the heck out of me too! Especially when the RC had nothing to do with the book you requested! It's funny but whenever I have an issue with someone not mailing a book on time, or ever, or it going lost in the mail, it always seems like it is a wishlist book that I have waited years for! Sod's luck, I guess.

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 11:48 AM ET
Member Since: 2/5/2007
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There is no reason to send a snarky response.  But just as you are allowed to have RC's, the other person is allowed to decline.   In a group this large, you are just going to get a few who won't go one step further than they have to.   SIGH   Hope you get your wish soon.

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 11:48 AM ET
Member Since: 4/7/2008
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Connie - Do you have your books on auto-request? If not, would you consider turning off your RC before you request paperbacks? It would be more of a hassle on your end but it would reduce the declines.

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 12:05 PM ET
Member Since: 12/10/2009
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Hang in there Connie , the die hard swappers will honor your RC and the rest are merely amateurs

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 12:31 PM ET
Member Since: 1/17/2009
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I think its just bad luck, too ... I have a dustjacket RC also, and I am having pretty good luck and only seem to get "real" declines for it .... so far.

Regardless of what some people on the forums say, in practice I have found that most members will send to people with RCs. It just seems to be the cranky few, out there, who go into a tizzy and decline as fast as they can. 

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 1:01 PM ET
Member Since: 8/10/2005
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If you are here every day, Connie, I would seriously just take the paperback books on your WL off auto-request and remove the RC from them before accepting--that way you just don't have to deal with it at all.

It can be tricky responding to RCs that you decline. Some complain because people don't explain the problem you have with the RC and just put "doesn't meet conditions." Others complain when you do try to explain because it sounds sassy and they take it personally. You're kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't.


Date Posted: 3/15/2011 1:10 PM ET
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Sounds like bad luck.  I have no problem reading through RCs, especially if they are written nicely and are clear to understand.  I read all kinds of stuff online, so I figure one paragraph isn't going to take much time to go through.  People do have the right to decline, but snarkiness isn't necessary.  Some people read things between the lines and then respond in that way because that is what they see.  I've seen RCs that almost yell and use exclamations and wording that is snarky in itself.  I decline if I feel that my book might never measure up to their standards no matter what I think.  If there is a RC for dust jacket, that is pretty straightforward and easy.  Some people get all huffy because they feel some of the things asked for are unnecessary for a used book, but people DO have some preferences.  I find that people have no issues with allergy ones, but tend to get upset over condition ones.  If the only condition is a dust jacket, that's pretty easy.  I hope the next swaps go better and you have more swaps on the happy scale.  Snarkiness is more a personal attack on your feelings than just a general decline.  I hope that is the last one for you. 

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 1:55 PM ET
Member Since: 7/28/2006
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Connie, how are your RCs worded?  I've heard from several members (and my own experiences) that if you put the "If this a paperback then send as normal" sentence first before the dust jacket one you get less declines.  Just a thought. 

I've been fortunate enough to not have many problems with my RCs.  The last 3 times someone declined them it was because they PMed me to say that the book was an ARC and did I still want it?  So obviously I told them no and rather than cancelling, they declined my RCs. 

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 3:19 PM ET
Member Since: 8/18/2008
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Connie, I don't know what the book is, but if I had it, I'd post it directly to you in a heartbeat.  I don't have any issues with people who have clear, reasonable RCs--and yours are.  Hang in there, most of us truly WANT to send out books!

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 5:32 PM ET
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Date Posted: 3/15/2011 5:45 PM ET
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I've gotten several RC's with the same requests. The're really simple to understand. I've only turned down a few RC's. A couple were about allergies to cats and I have 6 of the beggars. I had one where the person didn't want the book to have any yellowing pages. This was for a WL book that's 28 years old. It's going to be really hard not to have yellowing pages on a book that old. I will also turn down a request that has too many conditions listed. I don't want to spend the time reading a novel to figure out at the end that it doesn't meet the conditions.

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 7:41 PM ET
Member Since: 12/3/2005
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I have a very similar RC and have not had any unnecessary or confused requests in over a year after some tweaking of the verbage *knock on wood*.  I've copy & pasted it below and you're welcome to use it.  Best of luck :)

If this request is for a paperback book:  Thank-you for posting this, I have no special conditions for paperbacks.

If this request is for a Hardback book:  I request that the dust jacket be included.  Thanks!

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 7:44 PM ET
Member Since: 4/5/2008
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Melissa, now that's concise and friendly! 

Date Posted: 3/15/2011 8:12 PM ET
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I think it's amusing that people complain about members having RCs and people with RCs complain about the responses they get.
Date Posted: 3/18/2011 1:35 PM ET
Member Since: 6/23/2008
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Hi Connie.  We all know here how hard it is to wait for a book, whether it's on our wish list or not.  But the excitement we feel when we see that e-mail about a book on our wish list that has become available is just something else.  Your RC is extremely simple.  In fact it is their loss more than yours.  Some people have been burned by RC's and so are leery of accepting them, and so just reject them wihtout reading them.  Don't let it bother you.  Try and stay polite.  You aren't alone in this situation, although I don't think rudeness was warrented in your case.  Sooner or later your book will come to you.  Happy reading! :)