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Subject: Wl for a book with no ISBN
Date Posted: 2/28/2009 1:05 PM ET
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I'm trying to scramble to get a complete series by an author who is about to release a book that is apparently a continuation of a trilogy that has been published.  I don't have the complete trilogy.  So in trying to get them on my WL - I am putting all the editions of Paperbacks on WL.  I came across one and didn't look at the ISBN because I only looked to see if it had my "on my WL" there.  Then when I went to check my actual WL this one book (there are 3 editions) doesn't have a 10 number ISBN.  If does show a 5 digit 13 ISBN - so I'm figuring that the poster didn't know the ISBN or something and it's listed as a unique with special PBS number.  I know we aren't supposed to put these on our WL.  But I thought that the unique ISBN brom PBS would show as the 10 digit ISBN.  So do I take it off my WL?  I'm #2 of 2 on the WL for that book.


Date Posted: 2/28/2009 4:02 PM ET
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I'd take it off. The book is never going to be posted, because it's a one-time PBS generated listing. Therefore, all it's doing is taking up a slot on your WL that you could use for something else.

Date Posted: 2/28/2009 4:31 PM ET
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Depending on how much you have on your WL (I have a very small one) I would leave it on mine. If someone requested and received that book, utilized the hold posting that PBS offers and then reposts the book from their PBS bookshelf, you could conceivably receive that version.

Who says we are not supposed to WL the PBS assigned book numbered books:? Is that new?

Date Posted: 2/28/2009 7:16 PM ET
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I had one on my WL with a 5 digit for a long time, hoping that the person who ordered it from the poster who created the non-ISBN listing would repost it. I ended up getting the book from another source and have since removed it from my WL. You can leave it on your WL if you would like, just know that your chances of getting it are slim.

What's the book, BTW, Ruth?

Date Posted: 2/28/2009 7:31 PM ET
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If you have room for them then leave them. But the likely hood of them getting reposted is slim. The hold book thing is fairly new to PBS.  Within the last year or so. It wasn't there when I joined and was added afterwards. So that person may not even have it on their shelf on hold. 

It's possible that it could be reposted but most likely it'll get reposted with another PBS number if the ISBN it has brings up the wrong binding or something.

I know when I repost a book I find it easier to just type in the ISBN # then to bring up my TBR, then find the book on it and post it from there.  It's much faster just to type the ISBN into the search and hit post this book.  I don't post a book without having it hand to varify that it's postable first.  Although I know there are people that just post w/o checking.

If you're cramped for space then remove it to make room for others.  

The only time I have put the PBS generated ISBN's on my shelf if the book is OOP/HTF and there is no ISBN in PBS at all. Then I might put it on WL in hopes that someone will have the book and see it there and post it and also to remind me to keep an eye out for it on Ebay and the UBS.  But that's only happened a couple of times.  MOst of the time I put them on my remidner list so they don't take up WL space even though I've never had more than 150 on my WL.

Date Posted: 2/28/2009 7:48 PM ET
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You could also put the PBS-generated-isbn one on your reminder list -- if someone does use the old listing to post it, guess it would pop up as available and maybe you could snag it first, without giving over WL space to it.

Date Posted: 2/28/2009 9:37 PM ET
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The book is The Warrior Prophet by R. Scott Bakker (sci/fi fantasy) and the ISBN assigned was 117191-  which I now see is strange because it's 6 digits not 5.  There are 2 other paperback editions with different ISBN's so I'm not quite sure why this person coudln't find an ISBN.  And as for space - it's like a purse to me - no matter how big the purse I manage to fill it up. So I do a little bit of juggling now and then.  Now is when I'm juggling.  I take off books that I have little or no hope of getting.  In fact, there was a book I wanted that had a 57 person WL.  I went over to check out the book on Amazon and they had one copy (used) left sold by Amazon and was elegible for Prime shipping (menaing I didn't have to pay shipping).  It was $4.09.  So I bought that one and skipped the WL completely. I got it in the mail today.  It's in perfect shape - has a remainder mark and a smudge of dirt which I think I can clean up...but it's obviously never been read - it's a large paperback with 500 pages - so any use would be visible. 

But that has nothing to do with my question!  Anyway - I thought I'd ask.  I may just take that one off!


Date Posted: 3/1/2009 11:32 AM ET
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We are seeing more and more ISBNs being re-used by publishers. Most often for a paperback edition following a hardback edition. But also, for completely different books where the original is long out of print and not likely to ever be re-issued. In those cases, the book first listed here is the 'keeper' and any subsequent ones have to be posted as A Book without an ISBN even though they do have a valid ISBN. Maybe someday PBS will have/use a database that has a way to deal with this.