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Subject: YA Reading Challenge Discussion Forum for 2012
Date Posted: 11/24/2011 11:57 PM ET
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Hello.

 
I thought it was a Good time to Discuss Categories for the 2012 Reading Challenge.
 
Below, is our 2011 Challenge, and I have proposed some changes for 2012 for our Discussion.
 
Accordingly, Proposed Changes are Straight forward, but I can elaborate as needed.
 
 
The Second Draft is Posted a Few Posts Below
 
 

 



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 Why not include both:

William C. Morris YA Debut Award  and Margaret E. Edward Award

Also do a choice category to replace anything one might not wish to read.  One of the advantages of the classics challenge is that a reader can choose to replace a category with a book from a list of 100 from the Modern Classics List of 100.



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Here's more info on the Margaret Edwards Award:  LINK   (like a Lifetime Achivement, and is Awarded to one Author each Year)

      (it appears a large number of the Books would be considered as Classics)                     

 

Also, R.E.K., was there a Specific Section for the "Choice" Category, or how was it listed in the Classics Challenge?

 

Thanks.

 



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If you choose not to read a category you could pick a book and replace that selection from the list as noted above - just state which book you are choosing from that list instead.  Gives one a chance to read books already on your shelf or ereader.  There was no limitation on substitutions but on other challenges I see some limitations.  Depends on how you want to set it up.  Most of the time I can get those I don't have from the library but not if they are of the current year and must be ordered interlibrary.  



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Bump, and I am unsure if Players would like more or fewer Categories then our 2011 Challnege, and as I Proposed an average of 3 Books per month for the Full Challenge (is this too nuch reading, or the right amount of reading for you to feel Challenged in 2012, and Thanks!).

Also, additional Feedback is Requested on the Categories, and in order to make 2012 as inclusive as Posttible.

Date Posted: 12/9/2011 3:00 PM ET
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i liked the graphic category...

 

and # 6 for settings could just be book set in a school...that way you don't have to clarify what sort of school...

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Date Posted: 12/10/2011 7:16 AM ET
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Richard,

Last year I did not participate because I thought it ws too many overall books (okay so I was in the HF, mystery and paranormal challenge too), as well so some categories I just don't read and didn't want to purchase a book just for the challenge. Maybe 9 or 10 out of each main catogory. No problem either way I can always just lurk.

Alice

Date Posted: 12/10/2011 10:34 PM ET
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Richard - I lke the changes that have been proposed.  I think it will make an already excisting list a bit better.

 

1 problem I had was that bi/stra/ight/gay/transgender be the protaganist.  I had a hard time finding a protaganist, but many books have supporting characters that do meet the requested requirement.  So if that could be made into using any one person  who meets that criteria, be allowed instead of just the protaganist.. 

 

I really struggled with three choices.  At least for me I had a hard time trying to figure out what exactly each one was.  Maybe an easier breakdown???? 

9. Told from a first-person perspective

10. Told from a third-person omniscient perspective

11. Told from a third-person limited, multi-perspective viewpoint



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Below is a 2nd Draft, and after Reviewing the above Feedback (additional Comments are Requested).

 

Young Adult Reading Challenge  (2011, with proposed Updates for the 2012 Challenge)         

                                             Second Draft, 33 Books Full Challenge, or 12 Books mini-Challenge

 

Your Choice Category (You may replace one of the Below Categories with one of your Choosing)                      ADD Choice

Genre Categories                               

1. Realistic Fiction/Social Issues                               known mostly as Social Issues at Amazon

2. Romance

3. Fantasy

4. Science Fiction

5. Non-Fiction             Reduce Reading by One Category in this Secion, can be a High School List Read below

5. Apocalyptic/Dystopia       (add Apocalyptic)

6. Mystery/Thriller                       (add Thriller)

7. Classic

8. Graphic or Adventure                    add Adventure Option

9. Poetry/Free Verse                                   (include Free Verse)

10. Horror                   eliminate Horror, as Many Titles are already included in Fantasy, Sci Fi, or Apocalyptic/Dystopia   

10. Anthology                 (moved up from below)

 

Setting/Narrator Categories

1. Female protagonist

2. Male protagonist

3. One or More Characters are Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Transgender protagonist     (Add Bisexual and Transgender, and add Characters)

4. Non-human protagonist

5. Involves a family conflict

6. Takes place in a boarding School                          Boarding is too limiting, Change to School

7. Takes place in a non-industrialized country 

8. Contemporary Historical Novel (from another Century)                re-Worded

9. Told from a first-person perspective   First Person Narrator (I and/or We)                              re-Worded

10. Told from a third-person omniscient perspective   Third Person Omniscient Narrator (all knowing or godlike)       re-Worded

11. Third-Person limited, or Multiple-perspective Narrator (experiences of only one, or alternating characters)         re-Worded

 

Author/Award Categories                        (Also the Mini-Challenge)

 

1. Work by an author you have never read before          

2. Anthology      Moved to Genre Section

2. Author from a country other than the U.S., the U.K., Canada, or Australia 

3. Michael L. Printz Award

4. Margaret A. Edwards Award  William C. Morris YA Debut Award                   Change to the New Author Debut Award  Info              

5. Boston Globe-Horn Book Award

6. Cybils Award

7. Young Reader's Choice Award

8. Book that has or is being made into a movie                   for Movies currently in production

9. First or Last book in a series                                                     add Last Series Book too

10. Title from a high school Reading List  (Fiction or Non-Fiction)             Re-Worded

11. Best or a Recommended Book for Boys          Add Category       Example Titles

12. Best or a Recommended Book for Girls           Add Category       Example Titles

 



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Great!  Just one question - new author debut award.  What years or does it matter?  Have trouble getting newer ones at our small library.   When will the challenge be finalized?  Just wondering.



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Date Posted: 12/11/2011 2:50 PM ET
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REK, for any of the Award Categories, it can be any Year (and I've also considered Finalist for a Reward as acceptable Reads too).



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Our Last Bump, and any Final Comments are Requested, and as I will like to Finalize the 2012 Challenge by early Monday 12/19, and Thanks!

 

Date Posted: 12/19/2011 10:37 PM ET
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The 2012 YA Mini and Full Challenges are now Posted:

 2012 YA Mini and Full Reading Challenge *Lists Only*

Date Posted: 12/22/2011 9:12 AM ET
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Here's a Banner for our Challenge (I just adapted one I found Online):

2012yachallenge.jpg

 

Date Posted: 1/2/2012 2:21 PM ET
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I will try the mini challenge.

Date Posted: 1/2/2012 7:07 PM ET
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ELIZABETH, Welcome!   :-)

 

Also, I am Very impressed with both LISA and REK for their Orgainzation of the Titles they have Plannned to Read in 2012!

Date Posted: 2/7/2012 1:28 PM ET
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If anyone needs ideas for the "Book that has or is being made into a movie" category, I found this list on IMDb. There's always the chance that some won't actually make it to the big screen, but they are at least in some kind of production.



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JENNA,I am aware that you read multiple International Titles, and I was wondering if you have found any List(s) for these two Categories:

Takes place in a non-industrialized country 

 Author from a Country other than the U.S., the U.K., Canada, or Australia 
 
(Wikipedia and an extensive Web Search didn't help when I tried locating a Title to fit the Foreign Author Category Last Year, and Thanks!)
 
 
 
Lastly, I have read 9 YA Books to Date, and I just have to Categorize them on my Challenge Board (fyi).


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I haven't found good lists for those. For the international author, I've mostly stuck to people I know or happened to notice on Goodreads. Of course, last year my author was from New Zealand and this year from Ireland, so I haven't exactly branched out.

The non industrialized country category is always a problem. I have trouble defining NIC. Like in Trash, they are very poor, but I think India is industrialized. I highly recommend the book I read last year, Bamboo People, if you haven't read it. It was very good. I haven't figured out a book for this category for this year. I was considering a fantasy book perhaps that is set in a land that doesn't have modern trappings. Nothing in the category says it has to be a real country. :)

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I found this (Trash by Andy Mulligan) on my library's website and the description ther starts out "In an unnamed Third World country, in the not-so-distant future, three "dumpsite boys" make a living picking through the mountains of garbage on the outskirts of a large city."  So I might do that for the non-industrialized country. But would third world work? Or do you think the fact that it also mentions a large city means that it wouldn't?

ETA: Jenna is this the same book you mentioned in your post above? You mentioned one in India, but reviews I've read says it reminds them of the Phillipines and the description says "unnamed" so I don't know if it's the same book or not.



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Yeah, it's the same one. I think I assumed India because it reminded me of Slumdog Millionaire. But yeah, it takes place in a city, so I didn't consider it NIC. But I don't know... I really hate that category.
Date Posted: 2/10/2012 9:39 AM ET
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I found this definition, so maybe that helps.  Now we just need books set in these areas.  So I guess Trash would count if it is any SE Asian country, though to me it still seems iffy because from what I remember, a lot of the book takes place in the city.

The First World is the developed world - US, Canada, western Europe, Japan, Australia and New Zealand, etc.. The Second World was the Communist world led by the USSR. With the demise of the USSR and the communist block, there is no longer a Second World. The Third World is the underdeveloped world - agrarian, rural and poor. Many Third World countries have one or two developed cities, but the rest of the country is poor, rural and agrarian. Eastern Europe should probably be considered Third World. Russia should also be considered a Third World country with nuclear weapons. China, has always been considered Third World, and still is.

In general, Latin America, including Mexico, Africa, and most of Asia are still considered Third World. Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, except for their big cities, their maquiladora-type production facilities, a small middle class and a much smaller ruling elite should be considered Third World countries as well, since their populations are overwhelmingly rural, agrarian and poor.

South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and the Gulf oil emirates are no longer poor and underdeveloped and therefore should not be considered part of the Third World.

Some of the very poorest countries, especially in Africa, that have no industrialization, are almost entirely agrarian (subsistence farming), and have little or no hope of industrializing and competing in the world "marketplace", are sometimes termed the "Fourth World".

And here's a list of "developing countries" that might be helpful.  It also shows some that are now considered industrialized that the other definition said were non industrialized.

Date Posted: 2/10/2012 9:55 AM ET
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Found a couple other ideas:

Every Time a Rainbow Dies :: Rita Williams-Garcia (Jamaica)

Under a Red Sky: Memoir of a Childhood in Communist Romania :: Haya Leah Molnar

This website might be helpful: Exploring Diversity

eta: If you count Cuba, The Red Umbrella :: Christina Gonzalez begins in Cuba just before the Bay of Pigs.  I enjoyed it.



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Date Posted: 2/10/2012 1:47 PM ET
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Happy Friday!

JENNA, Thanks for Link to the following website, and as it includes many Links to various Categorical Lists: Exploring Diversity

 

Lastly, I recently learned of the following Quality Series, and which are Books of both Mystery and Action & Adventure that takes Place in Africa:

Series Name is Danger Zone, and the Author is David Gilman, and here a PBS' Link to Book #1:  Link   (Series Book #1 is in the mail to me)

 

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