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Subject: Rant on requestors book conditions
Date Posted: 11/13/2007 5:37 AM ET
Member Since: 7/22/2007
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Why don't requestors look at posters profile, before requesting books.  I have very clearly listed there the environment all of my books are kept in.  Is there any other place posters can list this info?   I certainly understand some people have allergies or dislikes of certain fibers and smells.  But, come on now, if you have those conditions, isn't it their responsiblility to at least read info posted.  GEEZ......

Date Posted: 11/13/2007 5:55 AM ET
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Yup, it sure is.  And even if they ordered from you with out looking their requestor conditions should *still* pop up when you accept the order.  So frankly if you got a complatint on a book you sent under those conditions you are not to blame.

Date Posted: 11/13/2007 6:14 AM ET
Member Since: 5/27/2006
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Why don't requestors look at posters profile, before requesting books.........if you have those conditions, isn't it their responsiblility to at least read info posted.

If you're ordering a book based on the FIFO system, there is no way to see the persons profile you're ordering from until after the order is accepted.   Therefore you have no idea where the book is coming from. This is why you're allowed to put conditions on the books you're ordering.

Date Posted: 11/13/2007 6:15 AM ET
Member Since: 7/22/2007
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Nope, No complaint.  Received two requests, from same person, two days apart.  Had to turn both down due to her conditions.  She stated allergies to cats, dogs and didnt like smoking.  Every one of those conditions is addressed in my profile.  If I had conditions with allergies and such, I would at least check the poster out as much as I could.  Just common sense to me.

Date Posted: 11/13/2007 6:15 AM ET
Member Since: 3/1/2007
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The reason a requestor doesn't see your profile before they order is if they are using the FIFO system they don't know who they are ordering from until the order is placed. That makes it impossible for them to look at your profile first. If you can't meet someones conditions simply deny the request.


Date Posted: 11/13/2007 7:08 AM ET
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I never look at profiles, because I rarely order specifically from an individual bookshelf. I do a search for the book I want, click "order this book" and there you go. You can't even see who you are ordering from until the request is already made unless you click "order more from this member" which I also very rarely do.

It's probably just a coincidence, and probably happens that your bookshelf matches up with the tastes of the person with the conditions. It's no big deal--all you have to do is mark that your books don't meet conditions and decline the request, and the book goes back into the first place in FIFO. You don't get punished at all for having a book that doesn't meet conditions.



Date Posted: 11/13/2007 9:06 AM ET
Member Since: 3/6/2006
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I"ve never, ever looked at a profile before requesting a book or doing fifo.  Why not put requestor's conditions in the requestor's conditions place where everyone will see them?

Date Posted: 11/13/2007 10:06 AM ET
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Barbara - I don't really understand your rant.  When people order a book they aren't looking at your specific bookshelf and reading your profile.  If your book doesn't meet their conditions, decline it and move on with life.

Date Posted: 11/13/2007 10:09 AM ET
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I also don't look at profiles when ordering (at least not most of the time), why would I?  and as others have said, if you order via FIFO there is no way to know hence the reason for RC which you can decline based on their requirements.

Date Posted: 11/13/2007 10:29 AM ET
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Date Posted: 11/13/2007 12:17 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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I know it must be frustrating for you to repeatedly get requests on your books and then see you don't get the order because of RC. But as others have stated, people can't see your profile before ordering so having the info in there really isn't going to help. Trust me, I would love a way to see if a person is a smoker prior to ordering from them. I hate when I order an extra book or two since they will be mailing anyways and end up with multiple orders because they decline my RC.

I know I haven't read a profile on anyone I order from except maybe on some BB deals. I do really appreciate when people offering deals put the environment in their sig line so that I don't try a deal from someone who doesn't meet my RC, that creates a big ol' mess.

Date Posted: 11/13/2007 1:59 PM ET
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I don't think the orderer should have to read the profile.   That is what requestor conditions are for -- the PBS system handles that for them.    And no, I do not have any conditions.   

Date Posted: 11/13/2007 5:02 PM ET
Member Since: 3/25/2007
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But, come on now, if you have those conditions, isn't it their responsiblility to at least read info posted.

Nope.  I know what you mean - my profile says you should assume the last reader of all of my books was a dog, with a cat in his lap, who read it in a cigar bar or something like that, lol.  But it's no one's responsibility to look at my profile.  It's MY responsibility to determine whether or not my book meets the requestor's conditions.

Date Posted: 11/13/2007 6:47 PM ET
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Sorry Barbara you are sort of off base with this rant. It isnt the requestors responsibility to look at your profile first even if they are ordering directly from you. Its the requestors responsibility to state what they will not accept in their conditions. Its their right given to them by the founders to have them and if you cant meet them simply decline and live and let live. If they are ordering from FIFO that means your on top of the list for that book anyway so it will get ordered soon.

Date Posted: 11/14/2007 8:55 PM ET
Member Since: 2/10/2007
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There isn't any way to look at someone's profile when ordering a book.  

Donna B

Date Posted: 11/16/2007 10:07 AM ET
Member Since: 1/30/2006
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Plus there's a lot of people who don't even have profiles.  How are they to know you do and that you list your home envirnment in it.  I've read quite a few profiles around here and they don't always state if they have pets or if they are smokers.

Date Posted: 11/16/2007 4:01 PM ET
Member Since: 3/1/2006
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I'm not trying to box the original poster of this topic in, but I also don't read profiles. To be honest, I'm just way too busy as it is. Yes, I read the forums, because I hear interesting stories and stuff. Profiles hold no interest for me whatsoever.


Frankly, I don't mind dealing with requestor conditions. In fact, I'm glad they're there, because I want to make sure I'm doing whatever I can to make sure the deal goes through smoothly.


One last thing... I will say that putting the environment in your profile is a great idea. In fact, I think I'll go and do that with mine, just in case there are people browsing it.


Happy Friday!


Date Posted: 11/16/2007 4:37 PM ET
Member Since: 1/11/2006
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People can't look at profiles until the book is already ordered.  You have no idea who you are ordering from, which is why there are requestor conditions.