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Subject: When did this change?
Date Posted: 9/30/2007 5:46 PM ET
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I've had my account on hold since 9/5 due to financial issues. I planned on going off hold tomorrow and I have posted several books in the past 3 weeks that I know are going to go directly to wish lists as soon as I come off hold. When did that change? They used to post wish list books immediately even if you were on hold. Now I've got almost a dozen wish list books posted and they haven't been offered to anyone.

I'm seriously considering deleting my bookshelf for the time being. I thought my financial problems would be resolved by now but its starting to look like my hold is going to be indefinite.

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Date Posted: 9/30/2007 5:54 PM ET
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I thought they went directly to the WL when posted too, even with the hold.   Is it possible that the books were only added to WLs after you posted them, and not before?

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Date Posted: 9/30/2007 6:13 PM ET
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How does the Hold affect your Bookshelf?
  • The books that are on your Bookshelf at the time the Hold goes into effect will be hidden from requests.
  • This does not include books that are involved in a Wish List Hold or an active transaction.
  • The FIFO order of each book will be preserved during the Hold; it will not "lose its place in line" to get requested.
  • Books that are already involved in an active request will not be affected by the Hold.
    • Any book request that was submitted before the Hold went into effect will not be affected by the Hold
    • Any book request you submit at any time (before, during or after the Hold will not be affected by the Hold.
  • This means that all auto-emails associated with an active transaction will be sent to you as usual
    • You will still get auto-emails asking if you have received a book that is en route to you 14 and 21 days and 25 days after the book was marked mailed by the sender.
    • You will still get "second" and "third" notifications for previously-submitted requests to which you have not responded.
    • You will still get auto-email reminders to mark your outgoing books mailed before the deadline if you have not done so.
  • Books newly posted to your Bookshelf during a Hold will be hidden from requests.
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Date Posted: 9/30/2007 6:36 PM ET
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I don't understand why the system would offer WL books to people from your shelf when it is on hold. Doesn't a hold say you cannot send books out at this time? It wouldn't seem fair to the person with the WL book to assign their order to someone who may not be able to send the book and let the next people in line get the books posted to active accounts. I would bet that as soon as you take your account off of hold all of those books will be offered. Hope your financial situation improves so you don't have to remove your shelf. Its a great place to get books a decent price and get the ones you don't need anymore into hands that will enjoy them.

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Date Posted: 9/30/2007 7:34 PM ET
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Melanie, before they made the change to hold everything (including books posted after the hold) books you posted after you put your account on hold would go straight into the system and people could order any of those books. 

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Date Posted: 9/30/2007 8:09 PM ET
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It changed several months ago, to the best of my knowledge. I used to like that feature of having my bookshelf on hold (usually because my postage budget ran dry) but be able to post the occasional wishlisted book as I read them and use my little stash of stamps to mail them out. That way I didn't end up with a huge pile to go out when my shelf came off hold. Not sure why they changed it--I personally don't like it, but that's okay. I can work around it when I need to.


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Date Posted: 9/30/2007 8:56 PM ET
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I don't remember when it changed either, but I think there were several people that all got hit at once posting books to their on-hold shelf, and they were out of town. And I saw soon after it was changed.

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Date Posted: 9/30/2007 10:06 PM ET
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When I wanted my newly posted WL books to be offered, I just took my shelf off hold for a couple minutes, and then back on hold.  Once they are offered to people, they stay offered even when you put your shelf back on hold. Am I making any sense?

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Date Posted: 9/30/2007 10:24 PM ET
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I didn't know they changed it either.  I had thought about putting my account on hold for a while and then just posting WL books for a while when I could to pick up a credit now and then.  Interesting.

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Date Posted: 10/1/2007 6:28 AM ET
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Date Posted: 10/1/2007 7:25 AM ET
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Bren you can adjust the dates of the hold. Just go to your account page and click on adjust dates in the pink/red box with the hold info. Put the new ending date in and then click hold account. It never goes off hold it just changes the date.

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Date Posted: 10/1/2007 9:23 AM ET
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 I remember when it changed, some people got hammered.  Now what I do is if I pick up books when my shelf is on hold, like now, I post them to my TBR shelf.  This way I know what's WListed, and I can post one or all of them according to my postage budget.  I did post several WL books once when I was on hold, and got slammed,that's when I started posting to my TBR instead.

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Date Posted: 10/1/2007 3:25 PM ET
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Kim - you don't have to put them on your TBR any more. You can put them directly on your shelf while it's on hold and they won't be offered.

I'm pretty sure this changed in May when the current site went live. My guess for the reason is because the previous behavior wasn't very obvious. It's more intuitive that if your shelf is on hold and you post a book, then it would also go on hold.

(Putting on my software engineer's hat, I can also guess that this might have been unintentional. This is the type of thing that can get overlooked when designing something like the hold feature. Then you try to convince people it's not really a bug, and you get a few users that like it, but the majority are still totally confused -- and eventually you have to fix it anyway.)

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